Re: Backup power supply

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Sujet : Re: Backup power supply
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Groupes : comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Date : 16. Mar 2024, 19:35:25
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Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
 
Seems the rechargeable bit is the issue. For my part, and purely to use
as a short-term standby for the Pi until mains resumes or the system can
shut down cleanly - I'd be happy with something with a bundle of AA
cells or similar. I doubt a clean switchover circuit would be difficult
to design, but my electronics knowledge is decades out of date :-{

Since I started mucking about with inverters the complexity of line
detection has gradually dawned on me. I started out thinking of a
simple SPDT relay with coil across the line. Line drops, relay
goes to normal contacts, job done. With enough filter caps on
the Pi to sustain it through a few line cycles maybe that would
work. For a larger load the caps get big, if you want (as I do)
to back up several different devices (DSL modem, router, switches)
that amounts to a custom DC supply interconnecting all devices.

If you want significant endurance (minutes or hours) capacitors
become impractical. Primary cells in series with a blocking
diode (6 volt battery with one silicon diode in series) would
get you close to 5 volts with the diode drop. Maybe that's
your ticket. The key is finding the right battery chemistry
to give the voltage you need. Still, it's a handmade gadget.
And, whatever voltage matching device you select must not
drain the primary cells. I think a three-terminal regulator
would cause at least some trouble on that count. On the good
side, you could put it all downstream of the Pi power supply
and skip line detection entirely. That's a big advantage.
 
When line voltage drops (and returns) it's often noisy, dropping,
returning and dropping again. Much better if the UPS takes over
with a hair trigger and waits for a period of quiet before retiring.
That's where the logic gets intricate.

I puzzled over the custom DC supply versus off-the-shelf AC UPS
approach and settled on the latter. For a single Pi, that no
longer looks so attractive. 

Thanks for reading,

bob prohaska


Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 Mar 24 * Backup power supply50Andriy D
13 Mar 24 +* Re: Backup power supply5Mike Scott
13 Mar 24 i+* Re: Backup power supply2Andriy D
13 Mar 24 ii`- Re: Backup power supply1Mike Scott
14 Mar 24 i`* Re: Backup power supply2<bp
5 Apr 24 i `- Re: Backup power supply1Lars Poulsen
13 Mar 24 +* Backup power supply27Vincent Coen
13 Mar 24 i`* Re: Backup power supply26Mike Scott
14 Mar 24 i `* Backup power supply25Vincent Coen
15 Mar 24 i  +- Re: Backup power supply1Andy Burns
15 Mar 24 i  `* Re: Backup power supply23Ahem A Rivet's Shot
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5 Apr 24 i   i`* Fwd: Backup power supply17Lars Poulsen
5 Apr 24 i   i +* Fwd: Backup power supply2Richard Falken
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10 Apr 24 i   i  `* Re: Fwd: Backup power supply4Lars Poulsen
10 Apr 24 i   i   +* Re: Fwd: Backup power supply2TimS
11 Apr 24 i   i   i`- Re: Fwd: Backup power supply1The Natural Philosopher
11 Apr 24 i   i   `- Re: Fwd: Backup power supply1The Natural Philosopher
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15 Mar 24 i   `* Re: Backup power supply2The Natural Philosopher
15 Mar 24 i    `- Re: Backup power supply1Ahem A Rivet's Shot
13 Mar 24 +* Backup power supply7Richard Falken
14 Mar 24 i`* Re: Backup power supply6Andriy D
14 Mar 24 i +* Re: Backup power supply4The Natural Philosopher
14 Mar 24 i i`* Re: Backup power supply3Andriy D
14 Mar 24 i i `* Re: Backup power supply2Computer Nerd Kev
15 Mar 24 i i  `- Re: Backup power supply1Andriy D
17 Mar 24 i `- Re: Backup power supply1Richard Falken
14 Mar 24 `* Re: Backup power supply10Mike Scott
14 Mar 24  +* Re: Backup power supply7<bp
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16 Mar 24  i `* Re: Backup power supply5<bp
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17 Mar 24  i   `* Re: Backup power supply2The Natural Philosopher
18 Mar 24  i    `- Re: Backup power supply1<bp
15 Mar 24  +- Re: Backup power supply1Andriy D
17 Mar 24  `- Re: Backup power supply1Richard Falken

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