Re: Return-path

Bonjour,

Le message du lundi 25/04/2022 (cf.
<250420220934581784%Kuypers@address.invalid> ), Jean-Pierre Kuypers
dixit, stipule notammant :

L'exposé de l'en-tête complet permettrait de mieux se rendre compte
d'où vient le message et par où il est passé.

Par ailleurs, les inondeurs ont en effet tout intérêt à ce qu'on ne
vienne pas les embarrasser  avec les flopées de messages non
distribués parce que l'adresse du destinataire est incorrecte. Non
mais !

Désolé pour le temps de réponse.

L'en-tête complet, donc.

Je pense que tu as eu trouvé la réponse.

Pour ce message est d'abord envoyé à une anncienne adresse chez wanadoo
qui redirige directement chez infomaniak.
Et je crains que ce soit la direction qui implémente ce return path...
Merci merci. Et honte sur moi. Je suis trop à cran en ce moment.
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