Re: question about nullptr

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Sujet : Re: question about nullptr
De : 643-408-1753 (at) *nospam* kylheku.com (Kaz Kylheku)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 09. Jul 2024, 04:32:46
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On 2024-07-08, Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> wrote:
Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
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On 08.07.2024 09:19, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
On 2024-07-07, Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> wrote:
I find myself completely out of step with many posters here about
"explicit code" should look like.  I think
>
  char *p = 0;
>
is explicit enough and, in fact, I consider it a plus point if someone
reading it goes "hey, what's going on here?" and ends up learning that 0
is null pointer constant in C.
 
And if that person is on the C or C++ langauge committee, that bit of
learning could just prevent a superfluous non-invention like nullptr.
>
What's superfluous to one is useful for others (e.g. for grep'ing
occurrences of a null-pointer value in source codes);
>
This is been suggested twice now but I'm struggling to see why that is
useful.  I can see management wanting one to find all uses of a null
pointer constant to check that they have all been replaced by the
"safer" nullptr, but what's the value in searching for nullptr?

We could patch GCC to have a -Wnull-ptr-zero, which will give you a
diagnostic for every occurrence of a zero valued integer expression that
becomes a null pointer constant rather than an integer or floating-point
value (and that isn't cast to pointer type).

(If this were so hugely useful, someone woulda done it by now?)

(Of course, it would go off on occurrences of NULL where NULL
is defined as just zero; the diagnostic could be clever enough
not to go off on expressions that are the expansion descendants
of NULL, or optionally so.)

(The option would actually be useful to someone wanting to convert
0 to NULL or nullptr.)

(Just like -Wold-style-cast in GNU C++  helps coders who only want
to use static_cast and friends.)

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7 Jul 24 ii +- Re: question about nullptr1Kaz Kylheku
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8 Jul 24 ii  +* Re: question about nullptr37Keith Thompson
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8 Jul 24 ii  i+* Re: question about nullptr27Michael S
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9 Jul 24 ii  iii`* Re: question about nullptr11Michael S
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9 Jul 24 ii  iii  `* Re: question about nullptr3Michael S
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13 Aug 24 ii  ii    `* Re: question about nullptr2Tim Rentsch
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9 Jul 24 ii  i `* Re: question about nullptr4Keith Thompson
10 Jul 24 ii  i  `* Re: question about nullptr3Tim Rentsch
10 Jul 24 ii  i   `* Re: question about nullptr2Keith Thompson
12 Aug 24 ii  i    `- Re: question about nullptr1Tim Rentsch
8 Jul 24 ii  `* Re: question about nullptr27Ben Bacarisse
8 Jul 24 ii   +* Re: question about nullptr24Kaz Kylheku
8 Jul 24 ii   i+* Re: question about nullptr22Janis Papanagnou
8 Jul 24 ii   ii+* Re: question about nullptr19Ben Bacarisse
8 Jul 24 ii   iii+* Re: question about nullptr12Janis Papanagnou
8 Jul 24 ii   iiii`* Re: question about nullptr11Ben Bacarisse
8 Jul 24 ii   iiii `* Re: question about nullptr10Janis Papanagnou
9 Jul 24 ii   iiii  `* Re: question about nullptr9Ben Bacarisse
10 Jul 24 ii   iiii   `* Re: question about nullptr8Janis Papanagnou
11 Jul 24 ii   iiii    `* Re: question about nullptr7Ben Bacarisse
12 Jul 24 ii   iiii     `* Re: question about nullptr6Janis Papanagnou
13 Jul 24 ii   iiii      +* Re: question about nullptr3Ben Bacarisse
13 Jul 24 ii   iiii      i`* Re: question about nullptr2Janis Papanagnou
15 Jul 24 ii   iiii      i `- Re: question about nullptr1Ben Bacarisse
13 Jul 24 ii   iiii      +- Re: question about nullptr1Janis Papanagnou
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9 Jul 24 ii   iii`* Re: question about nullptr6Kaz Kylheku
9 Jul 24 ii   iii +- Re: question about nullptr1Chris M. Thomasson
9 Jul 24 ii   iii `* Re: question about nullptr4Ben Bacarisse
11 Jul 24 ii   iii  `* Re: question about nullptr3Chris M. Thomasson
11 Jul 24 ii   iii   `* Re: question about nullptr2Ben Bacarisse
11 Jul 24 ii   iii    `- Re: question about nullptr1Chris M. Thomasson
11 Jul 24 ii   ii`* Re: question about nullptr2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Jul 24 ii   ii `- Re: question about nullptr1Janis Papanagnou
8 Jul 24 ii   i`- Re: question about nullptr1Richard Damon
8 Jul 24 ii   `* Re: question about nullptr2James Kuyper
9 Jul 24 ii    `- Re: question about nullptr1Kaz Kylheku
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7 Jul 24 ii`* Re: question about nullptr3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jul 24 ii +- Re: question about nullptr1Keith Thompson
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13 Jul 24 i i +- Re: question about nullptr1James Kuyper
13 Jul 24 i i `- Re: question about nullptr1Keith Thompson
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