Re: filling area by color atack safety

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Sujet : Re: filling area by color atack safety
De : tr.17687 (at) *nospam* z991.linuxsc.com (Tim Rentsch)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 24. Mar 2024, 22:26:16
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Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:

On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 07:27:38 -0700
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
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Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 11:57:53 +0000
Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
The nice thing about Tim's method is that we can expect that
performance depends on number of recolored pixels and almost
nothing else.
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One aspect that I consider a significant plus is my code never
does poorly.  Certainly it isn't the fastest in all cases, but
it's never abysmally slow.
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To be fair, none of presented algorithms is abysmally slow.  When
compared by number of visited points, they all appear to be within
factor of 2 or 2.5 of each other.

Certainly "abysmally slow" is subjective, but working in a large
pixel field, filling the whole field starting at the center,
Malcolm's code runs slower than my unoptimized code by a factor of
10 (and a tad slower than that compared to my optimized code).

Some of them for some patterns could be 10-15 times slower than
others, but it does not happen for all patterns and when it
happens it's because of problematic implementation rather because
of differences in algorithms.

In the case of Malcolm's code I think it's the algorithm, because
it doesn't scale linearly.  Malcolm's code runs faster than mine
for small colorings, but slows down dramatically as the image
being colored gets bigger.

The big difference between algorithms is not a speed, but amount of
auxiliary memory used in the worst case.  Your algorithm appears to be
the best in that department, [...]

Yes, my unoptimized algorithm was designed to use as little
memory as possible.  The optimized version traded space for
speed:  it runs a little bit faster but incurs a non-trivial cost
in terms of space used.  I think it's still not too bad, an upper
bound of a small multiple of N for an NxN pixel field.

But even by that metric, the difference between different
implementations of the same algorithm is often much bigger than
difference between algorithms.

If I am not mistaken the original naive recursive algorithm has a
space cost that is O( N**2 ) for an NxN pixel field.  The big-O
difference swamps everything else, just like the big-O difference
in runtime does for that metric.


For example, solid 200x200 image with starting point in the corner
[...]

On small pixel fields almost any algorithm is probably not too
bad.  These days any serious algorithm should scale well up
to at least 4K by 4K, and tested up to at least 16K x 16K.
Tricks that make some things faster for small images sometimes
fall on their face when confronted with a larger image.  My code
isn't likely to win many races on small images, but on large
images I expect it will always be competitive even if it doesn't
finish in first place.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
16 Mar 24 * filling area by color atack safety163fir
16 Mar 24 +* Re: filling area by color atack safety86Malcolm McLean
16 Mar 24 i+* Re: filling area by color atack safety25Ben Bacarisse
16 Mar 24 ii+* Re: filling area by color atack safety11bart
17 Mar 24 iii+- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Ben Bacarisse
18 Mar 24 iii+* Re: filling area by color atack safety8Tim Rentsch
18 Mar 24 iiii`* Re: filling area by color atack safety7Michael S
18 Mar 24 iiii +- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Tim Rentsch
19 Mar 24 iiii `* Re: filling area by color atack safety5fir
19 Mar 24 iiii  `* Re: filling area by color atack safety4bart
19 Mar 24 iiii   +- Re: filling area by color atack safety1bart
20 Mar 24 iiii   +- Re: filling area by color atack safety1fir
20 Mar 24 iiii   `- Re: filling area by color atack safety1David Brown
18 Mar 24 iii`- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Tim Rentsch
16 Mar 24 ii`* Re: filling area by color atack safety13Malcolm McLean
16 Mar 24 ii +* Re: filling area by color atack safety5Malcolm McLean
16 Mar 24 ii i+* Re: filling area by color atack safety3Chris M. Thomasson
17 Mar 24 ii ii`* Re: filling area by color atack safety2Chris M. Thomasson
18 Mar 24 ii ii `- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Michael S
20 Mar 24 ii i`- Re: filling area by color atack safety1fir
17 Mar 24 ii +* Re: filling area by color atack safety6Ben Bacarisse
17 Mar 24 ii i`* Re: filling area by color atack safety5Malcolm McLean
17 Mar 24 ii i +- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Kaz Kylheku
23 Mar 24 ii i +- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Ben Bacarisse
23 Mar 24 ii i `* Re: filling area by color atack safety2Tim Rentsch
29 Mar 24 ii i  `- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Tim Rentsch
17 Mar 24 ii `- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Michael S
16 Mar 24 i+* Re: filling area by color atack safety38David Brown
16 Mar 24 ii+* Re: filling area by color atack safety31Malcolm McLean
17 Mar 24 iii+* Re: filling area by color atack safety16Malcolm McLean
17 Mar 24 iiii+- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Michael S
17 Mar 24 iiii+* Re: filling area by color atack safety13Michael S
17 Mar 24 iiiii+* Re: filling area by color atack safety5Michael S
18 Mar 24 iiiiii`* Re: filling area by color atack safety4Tim Rentsch
18 Mar 24 iiiiii `* Re: filling area by color atack safety3Malcolm McLean
19 Mar 24 iiiiii  `* Re: filling area by color atack safety2Tim Rentsch
19 Mar 24 iiiiii   `- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Malcolm McLean
20 Mar 24 iiiii`* Re: filling area by color atack safety7fir
20 Mar 24 iiiii `* Re: filling area by color atack safety6Michael S
20 Mar 24 iiiii  `* Re: filling area by color atack safety5fir
20 Mar 24 iiiii   `* Re: filling area by color atack safety4Michael S
20 Mar 24 iiiii    `* Re: filling area by color atack safety3fir
20 Mar 24 iiiii     `* Re: filling area by color atack safety2Michael S
20 Mar 24 iiiii      `- Re: filling area by color atack safety1fir
20 Mar 24 iiii`- Re: filling area by color atack safety1fir
17 Mar 24 iii`* Re: filling area by color atack safety14David Brown
17 Mar 24 iii `* Re: filling area by color atack safety13Malcolm McLean
18 Mar 24 iii  `* Re: filling area by color atack safety12David Brown
18 Mar 24 iii   `* Re: filling area by color atack safety11Malcolm McLean
18 Mar 24 iii    `* Re: filling area by color atack safety10David Brown
18 Mar 24 iii     `* Re: filling area by color atack safety9Malcolm McLean
18 Mar 24 iii      +* Re: filling area by color atack safety3Keith Thompson
19 Mar 24 iii      i+- Keith-world (Was: filling area by color atack safety)1Kenny McCormack
19 Mar 24 iii      i`- Re: filling area by color atack safety1David Brown
18 Mar 24 iii      +- Re: filling area by color atack safety1bart
19 Mar 24 iii      +- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Chris M. Thomasson
19 Mar 24 iii      +- Re: filling area by color atack safety1David Brown
19 Mar 24 iii      `* Re: filling area by color atack safety2David Brown
19 Mar 24 iii       `- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Richard Harnden
17 Mar 24 ii+* Re: filling area by color atack safety4Ben Bacarisse
17 Mar 24 iii+* Re: filling area by color atack safety2Malcolm McLean
17 Mar 24 iiii`- Re: filling area by color atack safety1bart
17 Mar 24 iii`- Re: filling area by color atack safety1David Brown
20 Mar 24 ii`* Re: filling area by color atack safety2fir
20 Mar 24 ii `- Re: filling area by color atack safety1fir
17 Mar 24 i+* Re: filling area by color atack safety18Michael S
17 Mar 24 ii+* Re: filling area by color atack safety9bart
17 Mar 24 iii`* Re: filling area by color atack safety8Michael S
17 Mar 24 iii `* Re: filling area by color atack safety7bart
17 Mar 24 iii  +* Re: filling area by color atack safety2Michael S
17 Mar 24 iii  i`- Re: filling area by color atack safety1David Brown
17 Mar 24 iii  `* Re: filling area by color atack safety4Ben Bacarisse
17 Mar 24 iii   `* Re: filling area by color atack safety3Spiros Bousbouras
18 Mar 24 iii    `* Re: filling area by color atack safety2Ben Bacarisse
18 Mar 24 iii     `- Re: filling area by color atack safety1bart
18 Mar 24 ii+* Re: filling area by color atack safety5Tim Rentsch
18 Mar 24 iii`* Re: filling area by color atack safety4Malcolm McLean
19 Mar 24 iii `* Re: filling area by color atack safety3Tim Rentsch
19 Mar 24 iii  `* Re: filling area by color atack safety2Malcolm McLean
20 Mar 24 iii   `- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Tim Rentsch
20 Mar 24 ii`* Re: filling area by color atack safety3fir
20 Mar 24 ii `* Re: filling area by color atack safety2Michael S
20 Mar 24 ii  `- Re: filling area by color atack safety1fir
17 Mar 24 i`* Re: filling area by color atack safety4Lew Pitcher
17 Mar 24 i +- Re: filling area by color atack safety1bart
19 Mar 24 i `* Re: filling area by color atack safety2Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood
20 Mar 24 i  `- Re: filling area by color atack safety1fir
16 Mar 24 +* Re: filling area by color atack safety8bart
16 Mar 24 i+* Re: filling area by color atack safety2bart
16 Mar 24 ii`- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Malcolm McLean
20 Mar 24 i`* Re: filling area by color atack safety5fir
22 Mar 24 i `* Re: filling area by color atack safety4Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood
22 Mar 24 i  +* Re: filling area by color atack safety2Michael S
22 Mar 24 i  i`- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Michael S
23 Mar 24 i  `- Re: filling area by color atack safety1fir
17 Mar 24 +- Re: filling area by color atack safety1Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood
18 Mar 24 `* Re: filling area by color atack safety67Tim Rentsch
19 Mar 24  `* Re: filling area by color atack safety66Tim Rentsch
19 Mar 24   `* Re: filling area by color atack safety65Michael S
19 Mar 24    +* Re: filling area by color atack safety29Malcolm McLean
19 Mar 24    i+* Re: filling area by color atack safety4Michael S
19 Mar 24    i`* Re: filling area by color atack safety24Michael S
20 Mar 24    `* Re: filling area by color atack safety35Tim Rentsch

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