Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?

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Sujet : Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?
De : cr88192 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (BGB)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 07. Jul 2024, 21:10:51
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On 7/7/2024 9:03 AM, James Kuyper wrote:
On 7/7/24 00:55, BGB wrote:
On 7/6/2024 5:38 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:
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No, there is no implicitly defined pointer.
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This implicit pointer need not exist at a location in memory...
 Which is why C doesn't give you access to it's location in memory -
something you complained about earlier.
I don't think I was claiming that one should have direct access to its location or value within the language, rather that their existence and behaviors could be acknowledged in the language design (for a "not quite C" language).
My existing compiler uses such pointers internally, but does not give programs the ability to access their contents (as this would basically open up a crap storm in the semantics; and there is the "less bad" option of "just use pointers").
Well, and potentially, one can argue, that the existence or non-existence of such pointers could potentially influence the behavior of the program in some edge cases (well, along with things like turning large local arrays or structs into implicit memory allocations).
Like, say, an implicit malloc call is still a malloc call...
But alas (seemingly it is a necessary evil absent reserving MB of memory for the stack for many programs...).
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
5 Jul 24 * Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?305BGB
5 Jul 24 +* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Jul 24 i`- Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?1yeti
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5 Jul 24 `* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?26bart
5 Jul 24  +- Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?1BGB
6 Jul 24  `* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?24Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jul 24   +* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?17Keith Thompson
6 Jul 24   i+- Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?1Janis Papanagnou
6 Jul 24   i`* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?15Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jul 24   i +- Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?1Ben Bacarisse
6 Jul 24   i +- Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?1Keith Thompson
7 Jul 24   i +* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?10James Kuyper
10 Jul 24   i i`* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Jul 24   i i `* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?8James Kuyper
11 Jul 24   i i  `* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Jul 24   i i   +* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?2David Brown
11 Jul 24   i i   i`- Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?1Malcolm McLean
11 Jul 24   i i   +* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?3bart
11 Jul 24   i i   i`* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?2Chris M. Thomasson
12 Jul 24   i i   i `- Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?1Chris M. Thomasson
11 Jul 24   i i   `- Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?1James Kuyper
7 Jul 24   i +- Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?1Tim Rentsch
25 Aug 24   i `- Re: technology discussion ? does the world need a "new" C ?1dave thompson 2
6 Jul 24   +- Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?1Janis Papanagnou
6 Jul 24   +- Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?1James Kuyper
6 Jul 24   `* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?4bart
7 Jul 24    `* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?3Keith Thompson
7 Jul 24     `* Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?2bart
7 Jul 24      `- Re: technology discussion → does the world need a "new" C ?1Keith Thompson

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