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Sujet : Re: Recursion, Yo
De : Keith.S.Thompson+u (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Keith Thompson)
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Date : 15. Apr 2024, 17:46:17
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Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
On 14.04.2024 02:29, Michael S wrote:
On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 00:23:44 +0100
Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote:
 
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
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On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 00:13:36 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
 
On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 14:35:47 +0200, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
 
It seems that's one of the fundamental differences between
(low-level) languages that want to provide such technical factors
explicit to the user and between languages that want to provide a
higher abstraction.
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Algol 60, Pascal, Simula 67 and Algol 60, Eiffel, etc. all took
that approach.   
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Pascal had explicit pointers, though. Algol 68 and Ada did not. 
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Of course, Ada has pointers. The are called access types.
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ada_Programming/Types/access
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I never learned Algol-68, but considering your reputation I'd want
to see confirmation from more reliable source. 
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I suppose it all depends on what constitutes a pointer, but Algol 68
has pointers to this extent:
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BEGIN
   INT i := 42;
   [3] INT a := (1, 2, 3);
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   REF INT p := i;   CO p is a "pointer" to i
CO REF INT(p) := 99; CO changes i via p
CO p := a[2];        CO p now points to the second element of array a
CO REF INT(p) := 99; CO change that element via p
CO
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   print((i, a[1], a[2], a[3]))
END
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I'd call p a pointer.
>
 
Thank you.
It looks closer to C than to Pascal, i.e. pointer can point to any
object rather than just to dynamically allocated object.
>
The major difference is that they are closely bound to the type.
In that respect they are more like Pascal pointers. C pointers
open the can of issues with arithmetic on pointer values. You
don't find that in Pascal or Algol 68.
[...]

How are C pointers not "closely bound to the type"?

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7 Apr 24 * Recursion, Yo102Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Apr 24 +* Re: Recursion, Yo100fir
9 Apr 24 i`* Re: Recursion, Yo99Janis Papanagnou
9 Apr 24 i +* Re: Recursion, Yo7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Apr 24 i i+* Re: Recursion, Yo5Janis Papanagnou
9 Apr 24 i ii`* Re: Recursion, Yo4Ben Bacarisse
9 Apr 24 i ii `* Re: Recursion, Yo3Janis Papanagnou
9 Apr 24 i ii  `* Re: Recursion, Yo2Keith Thompson
10 Apr 24 i ii   `- Re: Recursion, Yo1Janis Papanagnou
9 Apr 24 i i`- Re: Recursion, Yo1bart
9 Apr 24 i `* Re: Recursion, Yo91Ben Bacarisse
9 Apr 24 i  +- Re: Recursion, Yo1Ben Bacarisse
10 Apr 24 i  `* Re: Recursion, Yo89Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Apr 24 i   +- Re: Recursion, Yo1Chris M. Thomasson
10 Apr 24 i   +* Re: Recursion, Yo86David Brown
10 Apr 24 i   i+* Re: Recursion, Yo84Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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15 Apr 24 i   ii ii  i  i  ii  `* Re: Recursion, Yo8Keith Thompson
15 Apr 24 i   ii ii  i  i  ii   `* Re: Recursion, Yo7Ben Bacarisse
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14 Apr 24 i   ii ii  i  i   `* Re: Recursion, Yo26Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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15 Apr 24 i   ii ii  i  i      +* Re: Recursion, Yo20Chris M. Thomasson
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18 Apr 24 i   ii ii  i  i      ii  `* Re: Recursion, Yo2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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16 Apr 24 i   ii ii  i  i      i +* Re: Recursion, Yo2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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11 Apr 24 i   ii `* Re: Recursion, Yo4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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11 Apr 24 i   ii  `* Re: Recursion, Yo2David Brown
11 Apr 24 i   ii   `- Re: Recursion, Yo1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Apr 24 i   i`- Re: Recursion, Yo1Kaz Kylheku
10 Apr 24 i   `- Re: Recursion, Yo1Tim Rentsch
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