Re: Good hash for pointers

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Sujet : Re: Good hash for pointers
De : 643-408-1753 (at) *nospam* kylheku.com (Kaz Kylheku)
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Date : 27. May 2024, 00:42:08
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On 2024-05-25, bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
It's not clear to me what the hashing is for on the nodes. What exactly
is the input being looked up, and what is being compared? Because
something sounds off: you don't normally look up a pointer to try and
find it in a table; you already have the pointer pointing at the data!

This happens when you need to associate objects with external
information which is not in those objects.

One such situation is when you replace use of strings as hash keys with
interned strings (atoms).  Atoms are typically pointers and so hash that way. 

This is a smart thing to do because atoms are faster to work with.
Comparing whether two values are the same atom is just a pointer
comparison, and hashing the atom is just a pointer hash: much faster
than a string hash, and with more easily assured good behavior.

The interning mechanism maintains its own hash table which maps the
strings to the atoms. By that mechanism, two identical strings are
mapped to the same atom. That table is only used at the boundaries of
the system when external data is read. The data contains identifiers
which are interned, and then they are manipulated as atoms.

Lisp languages have a symbol type, which is a kind of interned
string. Symbols are regularly used as keys into dictionary structures
like hash tables or assocation lists.

Certain important properties are put into the symbol itself, so
that no hashing is required to find them.

In classical Lisps, the global value of a variable named by a symbol
is stored in the symbol itself. The property list of a symbol is also
stored in the symbol.

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23 May 24 * Good hash for pointers111Malcolm McLean
23 May 24 +* Re: Good hash for pointers3Richard Harnden
24 May 24 i`* Re: Good hash for pointers2Keith Thompson
24 May 24 i `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Malcolm McLean
23 May 24 +- Re: Good hash for pointers1Kaz Kylheku
24 May 24 +* Re: Good hash for pointers16Tim Rentsch
24 May 24 i`* Re: Good hash for pointers15Malcolm McLean
24 May 24 i `* Re: Good hash for pointers14Tim Rentsch
24 May 24 i  `* Re: Good hash for pointers13Malcolm McLean
24 May 24 i   +* Re: Good hash for pointers11Tim Rentsch
24 May 24 i   i`* Re: Good hash for pointers10bart
24 May 24 i   i +* Re: Good hash for pointers3Malcolm McLean
24 May 24 i   i i`* Re: Good hash for pointers2Chris M. Thomasson
24 May 24 i   i i `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Chris M. Thomasson
24 May 24 i   i +* Re: Good hash for pointers3Tim Rentsch
24 May 24 i   i i`* Re: Good hash for pointers2Malcolm McLean
25 May 24 i   i i `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Tim Rentsch
24 May 24 i   i `* Re: Good hash for pointers3David Brown
24 May 24 i   i  `* Re: Good hash for pointers2Malcolm McLean
24 May 24 i   i   `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Michael S
24 May 24 i   `- Re: Good hash for pointers1David Brown
24 May 24 +* Re: Good hash for pointers3Chris M. Thomasson
24 May 24 i`* Re: Good hash for pointers2Chris M. Thomasson
24 May 24 i `- Re: Good hash for pointers1jak
24 May 24 +* Re: Good hash for pointers84Bonita Montero
24 May 24 i`* Re: Good hash for pointers83Malcolm McLean
25 May 24 i `* Re: Good hash for pointers82bart
25 May 24 i  `* Re: Good hash for pointers81Tim Rentsch
25 May 24 i   +* Re: Good hash for pointers4bart
25 May 24 i   i`* Re: Good hash for pointers3Tim Rentsch
25 May 24 i   i `* Re: Good hash for pointers2bart
26 May 24 i   i  `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Tim Rentsch
25 May 24 i   `* Re: Good hash for pointers76Bonita Montero
25 May 24 i    `* Re: Good hash for pointers75Tim Rentsch
25 May 24 i     +* Re: Good hash for pointers9Malcolm McLean
25 May 24 i     i+- Re: Good hash for pointers1Tim Rentsch
25 May 24 i     i+* Re: Good hash for pointers5Janis Papanagnou
26 May 24 i     ii`* Re: Good hash for pointers4Malcolm McLean
26 May 24 i     ii `* Re: Good hash for pointers3bart
26 May 24 i     ii  +- Re: Good hash for pointers1Richard Harnden
27 May 24 i     ii  `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Kaz Kylheku
26 May 24 i     i`* Re: Good hash for pointers2Bonita Montero
26 May 24 i     i `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Bonita Montero
26 May 24 i     `* Re: Good hash for pointers65Bonita Montero
26 May 24 i      `* Re: Good hash for pointers64Tim Rentsch
26 May 24 i       `* Re: Good hash for pointers63Bonita Montero
26 May 24 i        `* Re: Good hash for pointers62Tim Rentsch
26 May 24 i         +* Re: Good hash for pointers29Bonita Montero
26 May 24 i         i+- Re: Good hash for pointers1Bonita Montero
27 May 24 i         i+* Re: Good hash for pointers5Bonita Montero
28 May 24 i         ii`* Re: Good hash for pointers4Ben Bacarisse
30 May 24 i         ii `* Re: Good hash for pointers3Bonita Montero
30 May 24 i         ii  +- Re: Good hash for pointers1Bonita Montero
31 May 24 i         ii  `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Tim Rentsch
31 May 24 i         i`* Re: Good hash for pointers22Tim Rentsch
2 Jun 24 i         i `* Re: Good hash for pointers21Michael S
2 Jun 24 i         i  +* Re: Good hash for pointers2Chris M. Thomasson
3 Jun 24 i         i  i`- Re: Good hash for pointers1Chris M. Thomasson
3 Jun 24 i         i  +* Re: Good hash for pointers5Tim Rentsch
3 Jun 24 i         i  i`* Re: Good hash for pointers4Michael S
4 Jun 24 i         i  i `* Re: Good hash for pointers3Tim Rentsch
4 Jun 24 i         i  i  `* Re: Good hash for pointers2Michael S
5 Jun 24 i         i  i   `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Tim Rentsch
3 Jun 24 i         i  `* Re: Good hash for pointers13Bonita Montero
3 Jun 24 i         i   `* Re: Good hash for pointers12Michael S
3 Jun 24 i         i    `* Re: Good hash for pointers11Bonita Montero
3 Jun 24 i         i     +* Re: Good hash for pointers8bart
3 Jun 24 i         i     i+* Re: Good hash for pointers6Michael S
3 Jun 24 i         i     ii+* Re: Good hash for pointers4bart
3 Jun 24 i         i     iii+- Re: Good hash for pointers1Michael S
3 Jun 24 i         i     iii+- Re: Good hash for pointers1Michael S
4 Jun 24 i         i     iii`- Re: Good hash for pointers1Tim Rentsch
4 Jun 24 i         i     ii`- Re: Good hash for pointers1Tim Rentsch
3 Jun 24 i         i     i`- Re: Good hash for pointers1Bonita Montero
3 Jun 24 i         i     `* Re: Good hash for pointers2Michael S
3 Jun 24 i         i      `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Bonita Montero
4 Jun 24 i         `* Re: Good hash for pointers32Michael S
5 Jun 24 i          +* Re: Good hash for pointers4Bonita Montero
5 Jun 24 i          i`* Re: Good hash for pointers3Michael S
5 Jun 24 i          i `* Re: Good hash for pointers2Bonita Montero
5 Jun 24 i          i  `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Michael S
5 Jun 24 i          +* Re: Good hash for pointers17Tim Rentsch
5 Jun 24 i          i+* AES problem (was: Good hash for pointers)2Michael S
6 Jun 24 i          ii`- Re: AES problem (was: Good hash for pointers)1Tim Rentsch
5 Jun 24 i          i+* Re: Good hash for pointers11Michael S
6 Jun 24 i          ii`* Re: Good hash for pointers10Tim Rentsch
6 Jun 24 i          ii `* Re: Good hash for pointers9Michael S
17 Jun 24 i          ii  `* Re: Good hash for pointers8Tim Rentsch
17 Jun 24 i          ii   `* Re: Good hash for pointers7Michael S
18 Jun 24 i          ii    `* Re: Good hash for pointers6Tim Rentsch
19 Jun 24 i          ii     +* Re: Good hash for pointers2Keith Thompson
19 Jun 24 i          ii     i`- Re: Good hash for pointers1Tim Rentsch
19 Jun 24 i          ii     `* Re: Good hash for pointers3James Kuyper
19 Jun 24 i          ii      +- Re: Good hash for pointers1Keith Thompson
23 Jun 24 i          ii      `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Tim Rentsch
6 Jun 24 i          i`* Re: Good hash for pointers3Michael S
16 Jun 24 i          i `* Re: Good hash for pointers2Tim Rentsch
16 Jun 24 i          i  `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Chris M. Thomasson
7 Jun 24 i          `* Re: Good hash for pointers10Bonita Montero
9 Jun 24 i           `* Re: Good hash for pointers9Bonita Montero
9 Jun 24 i            +* Re: Good hash for pointers2Richard Harnden
10 Jun 24 i            `* Re: Good hash for pointers6Malcolm McLean
26 May 24 +* Re: Good hash for pointers2Bonita Montero
26 May 24 `- Re: Good hash for pointers1Bonita Montero

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