Re: how cast works?

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Sujet : Re: how cast works?
De : Keith.S.Thompson+u (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Keith Thompson)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 12. Aug 2024, 05:14:01
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Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
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David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
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On 09/08/2024 01:14, Keith Thompson wrote:
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David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
[...]
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A _Bool is always either 0 or 1.  The conversion is whatever the
compiler needs to give an int of value 0 or 1.
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The value of a _Bool object is always either 0 or 1 *unless* the
program does something weird.
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True.  But attempting to use a _Bool object (as a _Bool) that does not
contain either 0 or 1 is going to be undefined behaviour (at least it
was on the platform where I saw this happen as a code bug).
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It depends on whether representations with non-zero padding bits are
treated as trap representations (non-value representations in C23) or
not.
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In C99 and C11, iirc, the width of _Bool may be any value between
1 and CHAR_BIT.  If the width of _Bool is greater than 1, a _Bool
may have a well-defined value that is neither 0 or 1.  My guess is
most implementations define the width of _Bool as 1, but they don't
have to (again, iirc, in C99 and C11).

C11 (N1570) isn't 100% clear, but I think you're right.  The conversion
rank of _Bool is less than the rank of the char types.  I don't see an
explicit statement that this implies that _Bool has less precision than
unsigned char, so conceivably a conforming implementation could give
_Bool a precision of 2*CHAR_BIT, but C23 has cleared this up so I'm not
going to worry about it (and it's possible I've missed something).

It doesn't specify whether setting the padding bits to 1 results in a
non-value representation.
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That's probably an implementation-defined issue, is it not?
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I'm not sure whether it's implementation-defined or unspecified.
I don't see any mention of trap/non-value representations in Annex J.
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[...]
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6.2.6.1 p 2;

So it's implementation-defined.

N1570 :

    Except for bit-fields, objects are composed of contiguous sequences of
    one or more bytes, the number, order, and encoding of which are either
    explicitly specified or implementation-defined.

J.3.13 p 1, third subpoint.

    The number, order, and encoding of bytes in any object (when not
    explicitly specified in this International Standard) (6.2.6.1).

(listed under Implementation-defined behavior).

Quoting the standard so that everyone else doesn't have to go look it up
(and guess which edition you're referring to).  You might consider doing
that yourself.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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