Re: Every sufficiently competent C programmer knows --- Paraphrase of Sipser's agreement

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Sujet : Re: Every sufficiently competent C programmer knows --- Paraphrase of Sipser's agreement
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory comp.lang.c comp.lang.c++
Suivi-à : comp.theory
Date : 16. Mar 2025, 02:28:27
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On 3/15/2025 5:35 PM, dbush wrote:
On 3/15/2025 5:27 PM, olcott wrote:
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<MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
     If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
     until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
     stop running unless aborted then
>
     H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
     specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
</MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>
 But he didn't agree to what you think he did:
 
THIS IS EXACTLY AND PRECISELY WHAT I THINK HE DID AGREE TO
(It took me years to form this precise paraphrase)
<Accurate Paraphrase>
If emulating termination analyzer H emulates its input
finite string D of x86 machine language instructions
according to the semantics of the x86 programming language
until H correctly determines that this emulated D cannot
possibly reach its own "ret" instruction in any finite
number of correctly emulated steps then
H can abort its emulation of input D and correctly report
that D specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
</Accurate Paraphrase>
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11 Mar 25 * Every sufficiently competent C programmer knows10olcott
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13 Mar 25 +- Re: Every sufficiently competent C programmer knows --- Very Stupid Mistake or Liars1olcott
15 Mar 25 +* Re: Every sufficiently competent C programmer knows --- Paraphrase of Sipser's agreement2olcott
16 Mar 25 i`- Re: Every sufficiently competent C programmer knows --- Paraphrase of Sipser's agreement1olcott
16 Mar 25 `- Every sufficiently competent C programmer knows --- original post appended at end1olcott

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