On 06/09/2026 14:45, fir wrote:Are you saying you miss the option to doi think this list should be done maybe
but i would need to compose it
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so this post is not yet a list but to open
a topic
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two most top annoyances at the moment of my
memory is
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need of predeclarations (this is that i need
to declare a symbol up its usage as it cant be seen down
in code)
x = 1.5;
/*
... 100 lines of code ...
*/
float x;
Or do you want to resolve *every* entity name by the linker
(without seeing the declaration at the place where it belongs)?
Or do you just not "like" typed languages? (Want more scripting?)
I suppose you are using the wrong language for your liking, and
complain in the wrong newsgroup.
Strange that you find a principle like that - one that you find>
ITS TERRIBLE ANNOYING AND USELESS
in most typed programming languages, I'd say! - "terrible".
(It may annoy _you_, but it's certainly not "useless".)
Given the many typing errors you make I understand that you want>
II
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no adhoc enums (tags) type - i mean
such i dont need tod efine i just may use it
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SECOND TERRIBLE ANNOYANCE
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III....
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other candidates are
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1) that i need to repeat type names foo(floay x, float y, float z)
instedad of foo(float x,y,x)
to have less to type.
I'm currently programming mostly in a language that supports your
preferred syntax rule, but I have no problem if a language doesn't.
You're obviously in the wrong newsgroup. It's typical that semantic>
2) that i need end line with ";" (where newline sign should work
phrases are separated by delimiters (or, in "C", by terminators).
Again, I'm positive that is a common principle to define languages;
notable exceptions are many scripting languages.
You should think about what you buy, language design-wise, with the
decision to allow newlines instead, or to allow both.
Or just switch the language you are currently using and complaining
about.
Not sure what you mean here.>
3) that "," operator dont work in many cases
Operators work on entities of their defined types and return a result
of some type.
Personally I have a critical view on considering the ',' as _operator_
in the first place (in "C"). Mostly it's used in programming languages
as a syntactical delimiter (that defines, for example, collaterality).
But that's how it was initially defined and it's use is still possible>
4) & and | should also be used for logical imo
(i would need to rethink if t needs some changes in language and when it ffalls) now
(if you consider subtle differences to '&&' and '||'). - But you won't
do anyone a favor if you use a language in your own - debatable! - way,
at least in cases where you'd cooperate with other people.
In your own program writing activities use the construct that you like.
It works as it's defined. And with the preferences as defined. (It's>
5) *p.s works bad
also common in other languages to have struct-selectors bind strongly.)
What's "bad" about it? - If you intended to have a semantics of (*p).s
then just use p->s as it's been supposed.
(It may help to you learn the language you intend to use, before using
it.)
If you think "C" is badly defined, generally or concerning precedence
(with that or generally), just switch to a language that better suits
you.
Most things are either opinion and personal preferences (or just plain>
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and yet few things
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(i was writing on all this already but i hjust think official list should be written)
ignorance). There's no use for a list; there'd be as many such lists as
there's people who are picky about some detail and think their opinion
is representative.
Yeah, my own list had 100 annoyances.And it would be good (for all) if "fir" would just use your language,
But then, I also had my own language which fixed ALL OF THEM, and did a lot more.
and stop all the whining.
With C, I first tried creating a thin syntax wrapper, transpiled with a 300-line script into standard C, but this only dealt with a fraction of them, and required code to be written in a certain way (to avoid needing a full lexer).Check.
The thing is nobody here can fix it for you.
So, if you don't want to do this work yourself:
* Use C even if it is annoying (it sounds like there are lots of things you could do but aren't aware of them, so learn the language better).
* Switch languages. Most modern ones allow out of order functions (use a function before it is defined; no declaration needed), plus have lots of other featuresCheck.
Janis
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