On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 10:57:55 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote :
People need to be intelligent to see through the lies.
My phone came with a charger.
Hi Carlos,
I don't know how to respond to that absurd statement while being nice, but
I will try, where remember, I am always logically sensible at all times.
When you say "charger" that's just absurd. There is no such thing.
It's a 5-Watt charger. Or a 20-Watt PD charger. Or a 30-Watt QC charger.
Those are NOT the same thing.
If you don't understand that, then you don't understand the problem.
But worse, if you don't understand the problem, you can't defend the
solution that you're proposing because a 5-Watt charger is garbage.
You could have an entire drawer full of 5-Watt chargers and they'd be
essentially worthless compared to a single 20-Watt PD/QC charger, Carlos.
Until you show you understand that logic, your arguments won't make sense.
Having said that, my 3 free Galaxies all came with the *correct* charger in
the box, so I fully understand that a 20-Watt PD/QC charger works wonders.
But when you say "a charger" without saying the wattage or protocol,
there's no indication that you comprehend the technical aspect of the
problem set. (Am I being nice when I point out this logical fallacy?)
I have a bunch of chargers that came with
my phones. I do not use them. They are no use to me.
Of course not, Carlos. See above. They're likely garbage. They're useless.
In April of 2021 I picked up from T-Mobile an Apple 12 mini.
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I paid a *lot* of money for that cheap crappy phone, Chris, right?
And yet, it did not come with any charger, let alone a 20-Watt PD charger.
Worse, Apple has *never* in its entire history of selling iPhones, ever put
a 20-Watt PD charger in any iPhone box ever sold in the entire world.
Think about that fact.
Apple has NEVER put the proper charger for that iPhone ever, in the box.
So if I were an Apple family, where are all these 20-Watt chargers, Carlos?
Please remember that you *paid* a lot of money for those charging speeds.
You won't get them with just any old charger, Carlos.
You need, at a bare minimum, a 20-Watt PD charger for iPhones, and often a
20-Watt (at least) PD/QC charger for Android phones. That's just a fact.
Why?
Because I use chargers with multiple sockets capable of charging several
devices at the same time. It would be ridiculous to use several chargers
occupying several spaces in the power strip.
That's absurd Carlos. Do you realize why? I have four people on my plan.
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That's realistic, right? Two kids. Two parents. So that's four phones.
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One of them did not come with a charger because it's a crappy iPhone.
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Are you seriously suggesting that kid sneak into either her parent's
bedroom or her brother's bedroom every single night to charge her phone?
Your argument isn't logically defensible, and I'm saying this as nicely as
I can because nobody has an entire family sleeping in the same bedroom.
Unless they live in the slums - which is what Apple suggests we do.
And those chargers are older than my phones.
I'm sure they are.
We all have a drawer full of worthless 5-Watt chargers, Chris.
But the iPhone mini that I bought that was so "green" requires a 20-Watt PD
charger to properly charge it at the speeds that I paid for it to charge.
And Apple have never in its entire history of selling iPhones ever put even
close to a 20-Watt PD charger in any iPhone box ever sold in the world.
The logical fact is Apple lied.
It's not green.
It's a lie.
It's marketing.
Apple thinks we're stupid.