Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?

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Sujet : Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?
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Groupes : comp.mobile.android
Date : 13. Jun 2025, 16:48:36
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VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
 
On 2025-06-11 15:46, VanguardLH wrote:
New phones are just ridiculously overpriced, especially when trying to
find those that have 6-7 update lifecycles.
 
Well, they will last longer. You have to decide if that is enough
compensation for the high price. For me, no: I don't like to carry
around such an expensive thing that I can drop or that can be stolen.
 
My current phone are a Motorola G52 or G62. I believe in the 200..300 €
range.
 
What the average usable lifespan of lithium batteries in smart phones?
Since they are not user serviceable by design, the phone becomes useless
because the battery is not replacement, and batteries are chemical, so
they die, and lose capacity before then.  The battery doesn't
catastrophically and immediate die.  It loses capacity over time (can't
hold as many Coulombs).  Built in self destruction.  Lifespan could be 3
to 10 years.  10 years sounds like a long time, but not 3 years.  My car
is 23 years old, and still running very well and in great condition.
 
My ancient LG V20 has user-serviceable batteries.  It lasted this long
because I could replace the batteries.  I could even carry a spare
battery in my pocket for added up-time rather than lug around a power
bank or hunt and hope to find an outlet.  The LG V20 was introduced in
2016, and 9 years later I'm starting to ponder a replacement -- and
primarily due to the lack or discontinued support of an old Android
version by apps.

The trouble with user replaceable batteries that for most phones, by the
time the battery needs replacing, OEM batteries are unavailable.  For
Samsung they used to only make them for 1 year, so 5/6/7/...  years down the
track you only had old stock that had been on the shelf for half a decade
(not good for a lithium cell) or 'genuine' fakes that died in weeks.  Best I
could suggest is to buy an branded battery that isn't branded Samsung/etc.
At least you know it isn't fake (nobody fakes store-brand items, there's
better returns faking big brands).

So, unless it's iPhones with their small number of models and huge market,
quality aftermarket batteries effectively don't exist.  The only thing that
might change it is if the EU mandates spares must be available for N years,
at which point OEM batteries might be made for longer.

Theo

Date Sujet#  Auteur
11 Jun 25 * Alternate OS for LG V20?53VanguardLH
11 Jun 25 +* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?40Theo
11 Jun 25 i+* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?38VanguardLH
11 Jun 25 ii+- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Marion
12 Jun 25 ii`* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?36Carlos E.R.
12 Jun 25 ii +- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Marion
12 Jun 25 ii `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?34VanguardLH
13 Jun 25 ii  +* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?10Carlos E.R.
13 Jun 25 ii  i+* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?5AJL
13 Jun 25 ii  ii`* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?4Marion
13 Jun 25 ii  ii `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?3AJL
13 Jun 25 ii  ii  `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?2Andy Burns
13 Jun 25 ii  ii   `- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Marion
13 Jun 25 ii  i+- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1VanguardLH
13 Jun 25 ii  i+* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?2VanguardLH
13 Jun 25 ii  ii`- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Carlos E.R.
13 Jun 25 ii  i`- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Marion
13 Jun 25 ii  +* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?18Gelato
13 Jun 25 ii  i`* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?17VanguardLH
13 Jun 25 ii  i `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?16Andy Burns
13 Jun 25 ii  i  `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?15Gelato
13 Jun 25 ii  i   +* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?8Andy Burns
13 Jun 25 ii  i   i`* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?7VanguardLH
13 Jun 25 ii  i   i +* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?3Carlos E.R.
15 Jun 25 ii  i   i i`* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?2Marion
16 Jun 25 ii  i   i i `- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Carlos E.R.
13 Jun 25 ii  i   i +* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?2Andy Burns
15 Jun 25 ii  i   i i`- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Marion
16 Jun 25 ii  i   i `- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Jörg Lorenz
13 Jun 25 ii  i   +* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?2VanguardLH
13 Jun 25 ii  i   i`- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Theo
13 Jun 25 ii  i   `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?4Carlos E.R.
15 Jun 25 ii  i    `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?3Marion
15 Jun 25 ii  i     `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?2Andy Burns
16 Jun 25 ii  i      `- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Carlos E.R.
13 Jun 25 ii  `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?5Theo
13 Jun 25 ii   +* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?3VanguardLH
13 Jun 25 ii   i`* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?2AJL
13 Jun 25 ii   i `- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Marion
13 Jun 25 ii   `- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Wolf Greenblatt
11 Jun 25 i`- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Marion
11 Jun 25 `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?12Andy Burns
11 Jun 25  `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?11Theo
11 Jun 25   `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?10VanguardLH
11 Jun 25    `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?9Theo
11 Jun 25     +* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?4Oscar
11 Jun 25     i`* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?3Theo
12 Jun 25     i `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?2Oscar
13 Jun 25     i  `- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1Theo
12 Jun 25     `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?4VanguardLH
12 Jun 25      `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?3AJL
13 Jun 25       `* Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?2VanguardLH
13 Jun 25        `- Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?1AJL

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