Re: Carriers are only slowly adapting to iOS 18 beta RCS integration

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Sujet : Re: Carriers are only slowly adapting to iOS 18 beta RCS integration
De : singularity (at) *nospam* blackhole.org (Alan Browne)
Groupes : comp.mobile.android misc.phone.mobile.iphone uk.telecom.mobile
Date : 25. Jun 2024, 22:33:26
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On 2024-06-25 10:41, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 25.06.24 15:00, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2024-06-25 04:22, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 25.06.24 um 09:33 schrieb Harry S Robins:
https://9to5mac.com/2024/06/24/ios-18-rcs-iphone-beta/
>
No signs of RCS were seen in the first beta of iOS 18 released earlier this
month. However, the second beta of iOS 18 released on Monday added a new
RCS toggle in the Settings app, at least for some users. This has made beta
testers wonder why some of them aren't seeing the toggle, or even why the
feature isn't working despite the toggle being turned on.
>
Well, we now have the answer.
>
As seen by 9to5Mac in the iOS 18 beta 2 code, RCS support on the iPhone
relies on Apple working with carrier partners to get them to update their
bundles shipped with iOS. Right now, only a few carriers (such as AT&T and
T-Mobile in the US) have updated their carrier bundles to support RCS on
the iPhone.
>
Of course, there's still time for more carriers to work on enabling RCS
support on the iPhone by September, when iOS 18 will be available to the
public. But at the same time, this means that most beta users probably
won't be able to test the new feature.
>
There is no reasonable scenario where iPhone users need RCS.
>
I have it on my Pixel 7 with the provider Salt here in Switzerland and I
seriously have the impression Apple is just implementing it to get rid
of the endless Google-jammering.
>
As usual you babble from your singular point of view.
 You do not understand what I'm talking about.
I do all too well.  As usual you're projecting your experience and worldview onto everyone.
And as usual that has to be pointed out to you.

 
As I have contacts who use Android machines we're forced to use other
means to exchange sensitive info (usually Signal).  Thankfully this is
not all that often.
 *Signal is not RCS*.
I never said it was numbskull.  I said I use Signal to send encrypted messages (and files) to people using Android phones from my iPhone (actually from my Mac - quibble).
Signal is a highly encrypted messenger. And that
kind of application is the way to go and not *RCS*.
I'd rather send from iOS/Mac OS messages w/o using a 3rd party app.

 
RCS is security-wise even not second rate and just a nightmare.
>
Apple plan to implement encrypted RCS.  Whether this will be available
for the Sept. release is not clear.
 Irrelevant. RCS has *always* an unwanted man-in-the-middle.
Not so if I want default application encrypted messaging from me (iOS/Mac OS) to Android phones.
But that's probably too hard for you to grasp.

They don't want Google's version (Which Google is pushing hard for) -
Apple want an open version.
 Irrelvant.
Very relevant.  Do you want Google's own encryption that is not open source to be used or for a public open source encryption to be used?
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