Re: What's the actual *advantage* of not having an sd slot?

Marion,

My argument, as are all my arguments, is based on knowledge & logic.

That might be, but your "knowledge" seem to be stemming from conspiracy
theories, and your "logic" from whatever "makes sense" to you.  And always
"forgetting" to support either of those with anything.    Other people point
out your knowledge and/or logic is flawed ?  Well, they are just not as
smart as you, right ?

Think about this next question, Carlos:
Q: Why would anyone (pay a lot) for more than 64GB of internal
storage?
A: You tell me.

Funny how you point out your fellow man as the very cause of the high price
of (more) internal memory (they pay the asked price), but are still pointing
to (all!) device manufacturers as the actual culprits of it.

HINT: I know the answer. As I said, Google/Apple marketing are not stupid.

You *always* hint/claim.  But for some reason seldom even /try/ to explain,
let alone substanciate or, god forbid, prove.

As a result Your "I know" claims have become worth nothing.  I suggest you
try some other trick.  Like telling us the truth.  That would be a trick not
even I can withstand ! :-)

And no, (big) companies are not stupid.  In fact, its *in their very
charter* that they will try to maximize the gains on their goods so
investors get ever higher yields on their investments.

I will agree with anyone who makes a logically sensible argument, where,
if you are choosing a phone with double the RAM, that's a *different*
issue.
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A completely different issue.

Have you already mentioned what your issue is than ?   I can't remember you
did.

Besides,as Carlos poined out, your, not particulary well hidden, beef is the
price.
He dan tried to explain that you are trying to compare apples to steaks, and
you refused to engage on the grounds of "completely different".  How ?  You
again forgot to tell us (sigh, nothing new there).

a. A phone without sd is always inferior to a phone with sd
(in many ways)

Yeah, yeah, yeah - we already heard you the first 50 times you said that.

And you still have to prove that - against all the (by you ignored)
arguments made otherwise.

b. But only if we're comparing two essentially equivalent
phones otherwise

You're again lying.  Even the last time you tried to compare two, according
to you, the same phones, just only one with, and the other without an sd
slot.  Yeah, no.

And your "comparision" ?  The only thing you look at is that sd-card slot.
If its not there than nothing else matters, and the device is rejected.
Thats not comparision, thats exclusion.

But if you want to go for equivalency ? In that case I state that a 64GB
phone with a 64GB sd card is equivalent to a 128GB phone.   And if you want
you may even assume I mean that both are coming from the same manufacturer,
and otherwise having the same specs.

Now all would need to be done is to name the pros and cons of both. That
would be *comparing*.

... but seeing how you have been keeping your cards down all the time even
though others have shown you theirs I do not expect you to want, or even be
able to do so.

As other have said, the internal storage is way faster than
external memory cards, and have a much lower failure rate.

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I will *never* disagree with a logically defensible argument.
Only fools do that. That's why they're fools.

And yet you are doing exactly so.

My response is that I have nothing against internal storage
*except* that it doesn't do what portable storage does,

Which has been contradicted and you have refused to respond to.

and, worse, internal storage (while faster & more reliable)
certainly costs a *lot* more than equivalent portable storage costs.

Ah yes, the famous "I'm not against X, but ..." (followed by why the person
*is* against X).

So internal storage is good... but...
a. It costs an arm & a leg (compared to portable storage), and,

You have yet to explain and support that its the internal memroy thats to
blame, and not a number of other factors.

b. It can't do what portable storage d

Yeah, you already said that, multiple times before and even in this very
post of yours.  You've been given information to the contrary, which you
have refused to respond to.  Go you.

For example, internal storage can't grow over time.
Portable storage can.

That would be one for the "pro" column of a device with an sd slot.   You've
already gotten several "cons" for the same, but have refused to even
acknowledge, let alone address them.  Go you again.

Internal storage can't be popped into a handful of phones to
populate them. And it can't be transferred to a new phone like
portable storage can.

And I already addressed that, which you refused to respond to.  And there
you are, just claiming it again, as if that will somehow cause it to become
true.  It doesn't.

And the card slot means that it is more difficult, perhaps
impossible, to waterproof the phone.

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While that sounds logically defensible...

Yeah, thas some logic thats hard to deny, is it. :-)

As badgolferman noted, I don't think there is evidence of
those two things.
a. Phones w/o portable storage don't seem to be cheaper

That has been addressed, directly and indirectly, at least a couple of
times.

b. Phones w/o portable storage don't seem to have better
IP ratings

You say "seem to" (indicating pertinent information) but you're not
including the relevant information for us to look at ?   Claim rejected.

Hmmm... if that's the case, maybe the removal was just a
marketing trick?

Yes, in the face of all the information you have been given from several
people here to why that it most likely happened you should still believe
that.

You may say that you do not mind waterproofness, but that's
your opinion, and everybody is entitled to their own opinion.
Me, I have lost a phone to water, so to me it is important.

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I won't say that.
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What I will say is nobody has shown any evidence of your claim.

... says the person who doesn't believe in showing evidence to anything at
all.

Hypocrite much ?

Given phones without portable storage are clearly substandard
to phones that have it, and, while the theoretical advantages
of IP ratings and cost make sense, they don't seem to be passed
on to the consumer, the question is why did Google/Apple remove
the basic functionality of portable storage.
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HINT: I know why. Do you?

No, you don't know.   You've show to have a lot of unsupported claims,
"knowing" by way of mind-reading and a nice dose of paranoia - coupled with
refusing anything that doesn't support your preconceptions (the "not a real
scotsman" fallacy approach).

My hint : pre-teen kids are known to have a phase where they try to gain
respect of others by claiming that they know something others don't.  In the
end their "secret knowledge" most always turns out either to be non
existant, some fantasy coming from a childs mind, or just new to them but
trivial to adults.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser