On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:09:51 +0200, Arno Welzel wrote :
Having said that, my 3 free Galaxies all came with the *correct* charger in
the box, so I fully understand that a 20-Watt PD/QC charger works wonders.
No, Samsung chargers will not support QC, only USB-PD.
Hi Arno,
Correct me if I ever say an incorrect fact and shoot me if I'm not logical.
As far as I'm aware, while most Samsungs nowadays follow Apple's sleazy
decisions, Samsung's "Adaptive Fast Charging" is based on Qualcomm's Quick
Charge (QC) protocol, is it not?
As far as I was off-the-cuff aware, Samsung's proprietary "Adaptive Fast
Charging" technology was essentially their branding for a version of
Qualcomm's Quick Charge (typically QC 2.0 or QC 3.0). Many of their older
phones (and some mid-range ones that might have still included chargers in
the box a few years ago) used this protocol. These chargers typically maxed
out at around 15W or 18W though (but that's far from that box full of
worthless 5-Watt bricks).
However, you are correct that most of the newer Samsung flagship phones
that support "Super Fast Charging" (25W, 45W, or even higher) primarily
rely on the USB Power Delivery (PD) standard, specifically with
Programmable Power Supply (PPS) capabilities.
Most of my chargers from Amazon Vine are both PD and QC, by the way.
There are chargers which support USB-PD and QC likewise and 65 watts or
even more, depending on how much you spend. I have such a device - works
with *all* USB-C devices I have hear - laptop, tablet, smartphone.
I get all my chargers for free, but most people who aren't as detailed and
as helpful as I am aren't offered the chance to get everything for free.
As such, I agree with you that I have *plenty* of PD/QC high-wattage
chargers, but my point was that anyone who claims they have a box of
chargers at home to charge their sophisticated new phone doesn't understand
anything about the problem set.
It's not just any charger that is needed. It's the right charger.
And Apple has never, in its entire history, ever put the right charger in
any iPhone box for the iPhones that didn't come with a charger in the box.
Think about that.
If you're an Apple household, and if you bought a thousand iPhones, even
then, you'd still NOT have the correct charger for those new iPhones.
Which is my point.
Anyone who believes Apple's lies is a moron.
Unfortunately,most people are morons.
I'm not. But most people are incredibly stupid.
They actually believe a 5-Watt charger will charge their expensive crappy
iPhone at the charging speeds they paid for.
It can't.
That's not an opinion. That's a fact.
You need, at a bare minimum, a 20-Watt PD charger for iPhones, and often a
20-Watt (at least) PD/QC charger for Android phones. That's just a fact.
Yep - and these are available and not very expensive. Buy once, use for
many years when switching devices.
You're missing the point.
While I must have dozens of QC/PD high-wattage chargers, that's not the
point that I can "buy" any charger that I want to buy, ARno.
The point is Apple lied to people about being "green" and by saying they
had all the chargers they needed because the fact is they likely did not.
Anyone who *believes* Apple's lies, is a moron.
Unfortunately, most people are stupid.
That's why Apple is one of the most profitable companies on earth.
But we here,on this newsgroup, are NOT supposed to be stupid.
At the time Apple made those lies, NOBODY who had only iPhone chargers
could possibly have had the correct charger because Apple never supplied it
in any box in any iPhone to this day (and in Apple's entire history).
You had to buy it.
So Apple lied.
Again.