Liste des Groupes | Revenir à m android |
On 2025-06-28 23:48, Your Name wrote:Compare the near-identical iPhone or Samsung phone releases with and without the charger and the prices are basically the same. The cost of the charger (even at manufacturer's bulk purchase rates) wouldn't be the same as the cost of the minor tweaks between the two models.On 2025-06-28 12:42:59 +0000, Carlos E.R. said:You have no proof of this. You would have to compare the prices of the same model with and without charger.
On 2025-06-27 10:40, Marion wrote:Cheaper for the manufacturer, yes.On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:23:02 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote :No. We already have the correct charger, it is the same one we used with the previous phone. Yes, the last three phones I bought came with exactly the same charger.
Well, the phone came with a very fastHi Carlos,
charger. It has a name, but I have forgotten it.
It's EXTREMELY IMPORTANT in the context of this discussion, to UNDERSTAND
the difference between any old charger & the correct charger for a device.
As long as you get the point that having a "charger" but not realizing its output, is EXACTLY what Apple & Google & Samsung are relying on for profit.
They tell the customer "You have plenty of chargers", but they don't
explain that having a box full of 5-Watt bricks is worthless.
If the correct charger isn't included, in the box, then the customer needs to purchase the "correct" charger to take advantage of what they paid for.
Not including the charger with the phone makes the phone cheaper.
The buyer saves money.Nope, because the price of the phone has remained the same despite no longer including the charger (nor an audio jack, nor stickers in Apple's case).
The manufacturer has incentives for making the phone cheaper for the customer, which is being cheaper than the competition and selling more phones.Manufacturer's price their products for as much as they can get away with - that's how big business operates. They don't give a damn about making the product cheaper for the customer. Nor do they really care about being cheaper than the competition - in fact in most cases they simply copy the "competitior's" price, that's why the iPhone and Samsungs' high-end phones all cost about the same. Same with supermarket prices, etc.
Yes there are, there are also many incorrect chargers, but most consumers don't actually know how to tell the difference.Removing the charger had nothing to do with making the phone cheaper for the customer. Nor was it really anything to do with the "green" excuse, even though it somewhat appeased the e-waste whiners - if that was actually the reason, then the manufacturers would stop releasing a new, slightly tweaked, model every year for fools with more money than sense to rush out and upgrade to.There are many correct chargers sold by reputable dealers.
The real reason was mainly just extra profit for the manufacturer's pockets.
And if he does want a charger, he can buy that separately, from the same brand, or a different one. He gained choice.Except you have to get the correct charger. The "wrong" charger (especially el cheapo ones) can, and have, cause phones to be damaged or catch fire.
...
Obviously a single use-case is not a good measurement of anything. If it was, then companies would not be selling mobile phones at all simply because *I* personally don't need one. :-pThe manufacturer should always include a correct charger for their device.I disagree. And my phones came all with a charger. I don't use them.
Les messages affichés proviennent d'usenet.