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On 2025-06-28 22:40:22 +0000, Carlos E.R. said:Why don't you show some examples?On 2025-06-28 23:48, Your Name wrote:Compare the near-identical iPhone or Samsung phone releases with and without the charger and the prices are basically the same. The cost of the charger (even at manufacturer's bulk purchase rates) wouldn't be the same as the cost of the minor tweaks between the two models.On 2025-06-28 12:42:59 +0000, Carlos E.R. said:>
>On 2025-06-27 10:40, Marion wrote:>On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:23:02 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote :>
>Well, the phone came with a very fast>
charger. It has a name, but I have forgotten it.
Hi Carlos,
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It's EXTREMELY IMPORTANT in the context of this discussion, to UNDERSTAND
the difference between any old charger & the correct charger for a device.
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As long as you get the point that having a "charger" but not realizing its output, is EXACTLY what Apple & Google & Samsung are relying on for profit.
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They tell the customer "You have plenty of chargers", but they don't
explain that having a box full of 5-Watt bricks is worthless.
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If the correct charger isn't included, in the box, then the customer needs to purchase the "correct" charger to take advantage of what they paid for.
No. We already have the correct charger, it is the same one we used with the previous phone. Yes, the last three phones I bought came with exactly the same charger.
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Not including the charger with the phone makes the phone cheaper.
Cheaper for the manufacturer, yes.
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>The buyer saves money.>
Nope, because the price of the phone has remained the same despite no longer including the charger (nor an audio jack, nor stickers in Apple's case).
You have no proof of this. You would have to compare the prices of the same model with and without charger.
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