Re: Hotmail account

On 2024-09-23, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-09-13, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-09-13, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

I use iOS 16.7.10 Mail app with a Microsoft Hotmail account. MS
insist on "modern authentication methods" and keep telling me that
my account won't be accessible after September 16th with just user
name and password. I have to get an app with "modern authentication
methods"!  What the devil are those? And will Mail app have them?

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You could try following Microsoft's instructions:
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<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d>

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It's all a question of using OAuth2 authentication.  I hope iOS Mail
will incorporate this.
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Thunderbird under Windows does. I won't have to delete the account and
reset it up there. I just change to OAuth2. A good guide for Apple to
follow.

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You didn't scroll down far enough. There are instructions for Apple Mail
on that same page.

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You didn't read my post properly.
I don't have to delete the account with Thunderbird, but I do with Apple
Mail, at least according to that website.

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You're acting like deleting and recreating the account is a big hassle
when it isn't. Sure, it'd be nice to just toggle a switch, but doing it
the way Microsoft recommends isn't some horribly laborious task either.

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Not laborious, but seemingly excessive; especially compared with
T.bird's far simpler method of switching to OAuth2.
The latter seems user-friendly, the Apple way doesn't, given that the
change is merely to OAuth2 authentication.

 
I guess if it were me, I'd submit feedback about it.
 

Remember that iPads are owned by lots and lots of people who are far
from computer-savvy. They'll have to note down all the account details,
re-input them all carefully; and, if there are many like some of my
clients, they'll stumble a few times.

 
It would be interesting to know how many of them are still using
Hotmail.

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It's now the 23rd, and Mail still works fine although I've altered nothing.

Maybe you got lucky. Or maybe Microsoft extended the deadline. I don't
know or really care. I haven't looked at my old, crufty Hotmail account
in many years as it's mostly just a huge spam bucket.

BTW, Skull-and-Crossbones, Hotmail has long been subsumed into MS
Outlook, and there are myriads of email accounts under that banner.

Yes, I know. 🙂

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