Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill

Liste des GroupesRevenir à ol advocacy 
Sujet : Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill
De : akwolffan (at) *nospam* zoho.com (WolfFan)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.advocacy  alt.comp.os.windows-10
Date : 27. Jun 2025, 14:53:13
Autres entêtes
Organisation : the pack
Message-ID : <0001HW.2E0ED9C9000B5EAF70000A26338F@news.supernews.com>
References : 1
User-Agent : Hogwasher/5.24
On Jun 25, 2025, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote
(in article <103i58h$3340l$1@dont-email.me>):

Another daily-diary article, this time trying out a few Linux distros
that might offer a less painful transition for Windows users
<https://www.tomshardware.com/news/live/before-windows-10-goes-eol-im-testing-
three-alternative-linux-distros-to-save-my-6-year-old-laptop-from-the-landfill
.
>
A lot of the time, it seems to me, the hardest step for a Windows user
is copying a bootable Linux image (either live OS or installer) onto a
USB stick. What would be a quick, easy job on Linux itself requires a
fair bit of faffing about with third-party tools on Windows.

1. You don’t have to junk Win 10 if you don’t want to. I have XP and 7
machines running, MS bailed on them a long time ago but they still work, I
just have to be careful. As most modern web browsers no longer like XP and it
would be a Very Bad Idea(™) to run IE at this late date, the XP machines
are locked away on a network which has no internet connectivity, and we take
precautions when running them. Why run them at all? because they run $150,000
imagesetters, that’s why. The imagesetters are very picky about their
drivers (not really drivers, long story, but the imagesetters won’t work
without them) and still work, and management will NOT be replacing them as
long as they work. So the XP machines live. I have a couple spare XP machines
for when one of the units in use croaks, which will happen sooner or later.
The Win 7 machines live on for similar, though less expensive, reasons. Now,
if you want to go adventuring on ye internet, you might have problems, but
you can use Win 10 locally for decades or until the hardware dies, whichever
comes along first.

2. I have built USB thumb drives on a number of distros, including Fedora,
Ubuntu, assorted Mint, and (once only) Centos. Usually the tools provided
with the distro (if any...) work well enough, just make sure that the thumb
drive is big enough, I usually use 16 or 32 GB drives. If the supplied tools
don’t work, or if there aren’t any, Rufus has always worked for me.

3. the main problems that I’ve found with modern (a.k.a. less than a decade
old) laptops is that a lot of them have Safe Boot in the BIOS/UEFI and
getting around it is a pain, and, worse, a lot of vendors (Lenovo, I’m
looking at YOU, you bastards!) have BitLocker set up be default, making life
interesting when booted from another device. Neither problem is a game-ender,
but both are annoying.

4. the other problems are drivers. Some vendors (Lenovo again, you bastards!)
have limited Linux driver support. Translation: the ‘business’ Lenovos
often have ‘most’ hardware supported on Linux, if you dig hard enough,
the ‘home’ Lenovos don’t have a bloody thing supported, not even a
camera. Guess how I know this. Check for driver support before you start.

5. Some distros work better than others on certain hardware. (Lenovo again!)
I found that Fedora and Ubuntu are better bets on certain hardware than other
distros. Have a look at the ‘user community’ fora for your hardware and
see what others have had problems with; the Lenovo fora are infested with
people who have had problems with every distro but Fedora and it’s not
necessarily smooth sailing with Fedora.

As always, YMMV. Good luck.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
26 Jun 25 * Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill169Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Jun 25 +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill25T
26 Jun 25 i+* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Jun 25 ii`- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1T
26 Jun 25 i`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill22rbowman
26 Jun 25 i +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill9T
26 Jun 25 i i`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill8rbowman
26 Jun 25 i i `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill7T
26 Jun 25 i i  `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill6rbowman
26 Jun 25 i i   `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill5T
27 Jun 25 i i    `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill4rbowman
27 Jun 25 i i     `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill3T
27 Jun 25 i i      `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill2rbowman
27 Jun 25 i i       `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1T
27 Jun 25 i +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill7Paul
27 Jun 25 i i`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Jun09:04 i i +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill4T
28 Jun18:56 i i i+- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Paul
28 Jun20:53 i i i`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill2T
29 Jun10:37 i i i `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Daniel70
1 Jul18:00 i i `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1candycanearter07
28 Jun05:14 i `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill5T
28 Jun06:42 i  `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill4rbowman
28 Jun07:06 i   `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill3T
28 Jun08:29 i    `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill2rbowman
28 Jun09:02 i     `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1T
26 Jun 25 +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill5Alan K.
26 Jun 25 i+- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Paul
26 Jun 25 i`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill3rbowman
27 Jun 25 i `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill2T
27 Jun 25 i  `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1rbowman
26 Jun 25 +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill113Paul
26 Jun 25 i+* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill52Hank Rogers
27 Jun 25 ii+* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill47T
27 Jun 25 iii+* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill24Paul
27 Jun 25 iiii+- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Jun01:19 iiii`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill22Hank Rogers
28 Jun01:35 iiii +- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Jun06:37 iiii +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill3rbowman
28 Jun07:17 iiii i`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill2Paul
28 Jun08:27 iiii i `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1rbowman
28 Jun07:26 iiii +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill5T
28 Jun09:19 iiii i`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill4Paul
28 Jun09:26 iiii i `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill3T
28 Jun10:18 iiii i  `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill2Paul
28 Jun10:56 iiii i   `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1T
28 Jun12:52 iiii +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill3Chris
28 Jun19:07 iiii i+- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Paul
28 Jun23:47 iiii i`- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Jun20:56 iiii +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill8T
28 Jun23:51 iiii i`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Jun02:18 iiii i `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill6T
29 Jun04:20 iiii i  +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Jun05:05 iiii i  i+* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill2rbowman
29 Jun07:20 iiii i  ii`- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1T
29 Jun07:10 iiii i  i`- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1T
29 Jun04:52 iiii i  `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1rbowman
29 Jun10:54 iiii `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Daniel70
28 Jun02:48 iii+* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill20T
28 Jun03:03 iiii+* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Jun05:16 iiiii`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill4T
28 Jun05:26 iiiii `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Jun23:07 iiiii  `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill2vallor
1 Jul18:00 iiiii   `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1candycanearter07
28 Jun06:49 iiii+* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill11rbowman
28 Jun07:03 iiiii`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill10T
28 Jun08:37 iiiii +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Jun09:06 iiiii i`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill5T
28 Jun23:53 iiiii i `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Jun02:20 iiiii i  `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill3T
29 Jun04:21 iiiii i   `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Jun07:21 iiiii i    `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1T
28 Jun08:57 iiiii `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill3rbowman
28 Jun09:10 iiiii  `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill2T
28 Jun19:36 iiiii   `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1rbowman
28 Jun12:08 iiii+- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1J. P. Gilliver
28 Jun15:05 iiii+- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Chris
28 Jun23:55 iiii`- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Jun01:37 iii`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Rufus To Save My Laptop From The Landfill (was: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill)2Tyrone
29 Jun02:05 iii `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Rufus To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Hank Rogers
28 Jun23:45 ii+* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Jun01:17 iii`- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Hank Rogers
28 Jun23:46 ii+- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Jun23:46 ii`- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
27 Jun 25 i+* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill59Lawrence D'Oliveiro
27 Jun 25 ii+* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill55T
27 Jun 25 iii`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill54J. P. Gilliver
28 Jun02:41 iii `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill53T
28 Jun03:06 iii  `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill52Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Jun05:15 iii   `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill51T
28 Jun05:27 iii    +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill18Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Jun06:43 iii    i`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill17T
28 Jun06:55 iii    i +- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1T
28 Jun08:37 iii    i `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill15Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Jun09:16 iii    i  +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill13T
28 Jun23:58 iii    i  i`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Jun02:23 iii    i  i `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill11T
29 Jun04:22 iii    i  i  `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill10Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Jun06:32 iii    i  i   `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill9T
30 Jun00:53 iii    i  i    `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill8Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Jun02:25 iii    i  i     +- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1%
30 Jun07:39 iii    i  i     `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill6J. P. Gilliver
28 Jun20:59 iii    i  `- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1T
28 Jun12:10 iii    +* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill2J. P. Gilliver
28 Jun21:10 iii    `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill30T
27 Jun 25 ii`* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill3Paul
27 Jun 25 i`- Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
27 Jun 25 `* Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill25WolfFan

Haut de la page

Les messages affichés proviennent d'usenet.

NewsPortal