Sujet : Re: New WiFi adapter
De : tnp (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.advocacy comp.os.linux.miscDate : 05. Jun 2025, 09:49:00
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On 04/06/2025 23:58, c186282 wrote:
On 6/4/25 4:21 PM, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 20:47:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
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04/06/2025 20:37, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 01:14:15 -0400, c186282 wrote:
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Remember all the great IBM-PC/BIOS routines ?
Made it EASY to write full-screen editors. You had to have the
"Technical Reference Manual" to know all that stuff, however I did
have that ....
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And everyone felt compelled to write an editor...
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Fuck that. Wordstar had been available on CP/M for ages, and was better
than vi.
So when it turned up on DOS everyone grabbed a pirate copy. 'joe'
emulates it these days for Linux
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Definitely. WordStar was bundled on the Osborne 1 CP/M I bought in '81 and
hat is what I used. When I moved to DOS I used Brief which was designed to
be a programming editor.
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The 'write an editor' think could be traced to the programming books of
the day. They tended to use string handling in their examples and it
followed 'Oh, I can write an editor'.
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I wrote cross-assemblers when they weren't available or expensive but I
was happy with available editors. I did not use vi. Vim (vi improved) is a
hell of an improvement but that was more than 10 years in the future.
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vi in most Linux distros is a symlink to Vim so many who claim to use vi
aren't using the original Bill Joy version.
Umm ... are we talking WordSTAR or WordPERFECT here ?
WordStar produced plain text files It was an editor.
Word produced its own format - it was a primitive word processor
I've used both - indeed even WS on a Kaypro CP/M box -
but WordPerfect was much better. The old boss still
used it for everything until he retired a few years
ago. Fortunately LibreOffice could at least READ WP
files (not sure if ever became able to write them).
Word Perfect was in many ways Perfect...Just enough features to be useful to write letters and short documents on with an easy interface.
Word suffered from 'creeping feauturism' and couldn't decide whether it was a desktop publishing suite or a thing to write letters and manuals with.
Well had to use it because everyone else sent is Word files, etc etc.
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