Re: Why I won't run Windows on my Thelio

On 5/29/2024 9:16 PM, vallor wrote:

On Wed, 29 May 2024 18:49:40 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
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On 5/28/2024 11:49 PM, vallor wrote:

On Tue, 28 May 2024 23:17:32 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
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On 5/28/2024 11:12 PM, vallor wrote:

On Tue, 28 May 2024 22:26:01 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
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On 5/28/2024 10:24 PM, vallor wrote:

On Tue, 28 May 2024 21:17:06 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
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On 5/28/2024 2:50 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:

On 2024-05-28 9:34 a.m., DFS wrote:

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If you bought a machine which was designed to run Linux,

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I didn't know there was such a thing.
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Does that mean Windows won't run on them?

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I wouldn't want to try to run Windows on this system, unless it was
in a virt.

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Why?

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First, I don't want Microsoft to get its greasy fingers on my EFI.
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Second, it probably doesn't have drivers for the custom daughterboard
that runs the cooling, and I'm not willing to spend the time to chase
down Windows drivers.
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Third...there's no need.  The system is perfectly fine with what it
has,
and needs nothing that Windows has to offer.  If that changed, maybe
I'd rethink it.

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What are the exact specs of the hardware?

This is the 1.0 version, I have the 1.1 version:
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https://tech-docs.system76.com/models/thelio-mega-r1.0/README.html
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With a AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X.  256G of ECC memory.
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
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If the daughterboard isn't supported on Windows, all the cooling fans
will run full-speed, which would be annoying.

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https://github.com/system76/thelio-io-windows
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Now remove that Linux shit by slicking it with a Windows disk.

 That would be a downgrade.
 

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Enjoy good software and games for a change.

 The software I use is more Linux-oriented than Windows-oriented.

Not understanding this.

Use WSL if you have a compulsion for a bash shell.

 I would use Cygwin, if I wanted to downgrade.
 

Embrace Notepad++ and MS Office and
AIDA64.  Move out of the ghetto to the suburbs.
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https://imgur.com/a/ZhwJJLz

 LOL.  "[TRIAL VERSION]".  Talk about "ghetto".

ha!
I just recently tried AIDA64 for the first time.  I'm trying to get them to sell me a one-PC license for $20.  The current license if 3 PCs for $60.
Even $20 is too much for a system info app that I'll barely use, but it's a masterful piece of software.  Too bad Linux has nothing approaching it.

Note: why did you buy such a powerful system?

 Because I didn't want my system to be weak.  I wanted
a workstation, not just a desktop.  (Even so, for a workstation,
it's actually a little on the low-end.)

It's scary that you/others consider your system 'low-end'.  It's an incredible amount of computing power to have in front of you.
Looking at various 'workstations' online, the graphics card often makes up 1/2 the price.
Note: I wrote a python program to parse Usenet message files one at a time and add them to a SQLite relational db.  On my AMD 5600G/16GB memory system, the program never runs slower than ~200 posts PER SECOND.
If I run the program for N posts, then rerun it for the same N posts (eg after fixing a minor code issue), it will often run at 1200 to 2000 posts per second.  I was shocked when I saw that.
I have to wonder what a system like yours would do.

For example, I can use the ramdisk for images for virts.
 I can also unpack sources on my ramdisk for faster compilation, and
build them with "make -j 64".
 I run games and stream them with obs-studio, which takes
serious horsepower.  4K video is like that.  Also editing
the video benefits from the extra horsepower.

So you paid $5K+ to record video gaming streams (not that there's anything wrong with that).
Aside: did you follow the demise of Artisan Builds computer builder? Their downfall began with the CEO making fun online of a Twitch streamer.
  > I also use Foocus for generative AI, text-to-image.
https://github.com/lllyasviel/Fooocus/releases/download/release/Fooocus_win64_2-1-831.7z

Did you watch the video that rbowman posted?  Linus was surprised
at the Linux performance of his little Thelio.  It beat MS Windows
in many ways.

link please.  I'd like to see it.