Re: This FOSS Thang :-)

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Sujet : Re: This FOSS Thang :-)
De : vallor (at) *nospam* cultnix.org (vallor)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 21. Mar 2024, 07:52:29
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:13:02 -0400, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
wrote in <utf5eu$1jl3d$1@dont-email.me>:

On 3/20/24 5:46 AM, vallor wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 15:36:53 -0400, -hh
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
wrote in <utcpgl$10gjc$1@dont-email.me>:
 
And who sells hardware with Linux OS preinstalled out of the box? That
alone takes some searching for the retailers, so that's even more
touch labor time spent.
 
If only there were some kind of global database that one could query
for such information...
 
BTW, what hh really wants in a Linux system is something running
ChromeOS.  You telling me he can't find a Chromebook?
 
 
I've found that the off-the-box ChromeOS solutions have been pretty
lightweight on hardware specifications.
 
 
(Not to mention the offerings by System76, as well as Dell.)
 
And HP.  They've offered some decent towers with Ubuntu, but there's
still then the DIY search for Apps.
 
 
Oh, you'd better go to a Linux vendor, though -- otherwise, you'll
spend "hours and hours" to "make it work".
 
Right?  Anybody else have that experience?  "hours and hours"?
 
Let's not forget how DFS has frequently ribbed chrisv about how chrisv
had refused to show spending the time to optimize a build on NewEgg
because it would take too many hours...think it was part of the "more
choices are always better" which backfired on chrisv due to it being a
clear example of do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do.

And how is this related to the price of tea in China?

BTW, this Linux workstation (bought "turnkey") blows the doors off Mrs.
vallor's new Mac Studio.
 
And this turnkey is ... what?

I've only mentioned it half-a-dozen times.  System76 Thelio.

And what came pre-installed and are you
still using the same?

No, and I didn't spend "hours and hours" to switch
it over to Linux Mint.

[[ There _is_ a problem with Linux, but it isn't what
you say it is.  I will post that under separate cover. ]]

 
My benchmark:  running Foocus,
which uses pytorch, which is apparently not well-supported on the Mac
Studio.  Maybe someday...
 
Different tools for different jobs...

Can you elaborate?  Why would you expect a system that touts
having a "neural engine" to utterly fail against the Thelio
when it comes to generative AI?

...and yet quite ironic that even Mrs. Vallor chose to buy Apple,
despite having an in-house Linux IT family member expert support.

Beats the pants off of using Windows.  MacOS is Unix, and I do know
Unix, which is one reason why this is a Unix household.

I'm the one that got her the system.  Her iMac was too
weak, and don't get me started about "Mac minis".  Almost got her
a Mac Pro, but she thought that would be too extravagant.  So
a Mac Studio splits the difference if one wants to throw money
at the problem that Apple performance sucks.

She also wants another system to run games on, since Apple has a blind
spot when it comes to modern immersive entertainment.  That will almost
certainly be Linux, depending on how important MS Flight
Simulator ends up in the equation.  And, will be potentially using
the same Studio monitor if Apple hasn't walled people off
of that with their "stupid connector tricks":  in other words,
the only "hours and hours" to be spent would be to make it work
with Apple hardware.

Actually, scratch that, my time isn't worth the effort to fight with
Apple hardware, when I can find her a nice, standard, 4K monitor
for less.  So there you go, Hugh -- no "hours and hours", problem
solved.

Now for my other post...

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