Re: The problem with not owning the software

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Sujet : Re: The problem with not owning the software
De : this (at) *nospam* ddress.is.invalid (Frank Slootweg)
Groupes : alt.comp.os.windows-11 comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 04. Jan 2025, 22:13:14
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Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
[...]

At first glance, there is a lot about Windows that is way more
user-friendly than Linux. However, if you take something like Linux Mint
and compare it to Windows 11, you'd wonder _how_ Windows 11 is
friendlier. In Windows 11, some applications can't be removed and you
don't get an idea why. Some Windows components aren't even listed in the
applications so you have to wonder how to install or remove them. For
drivers, they're installed through Windows Update but if they don't work
right, you just have to know about the Device Manager which is
impossible to find on your own because they're phasing out the Control
Panel. Some programs are available through the Window Store, others
through the web which means that some are repairable and easily
uninstallable whereas the others aren't... and so on. For new users,
Linux Mint is actually _much_ simpler than Windows is.

  FWIW, IMO from a system management and system maintenace standpoint,
Windows 11 (and 10 for that matter) is not user-friendly at all.

  Actually I would be hard-pressed to come up with anything in Windows
11 (itself, not applications/software for it) which is user-friendly.

  I think regular users (not 'geeks' like us) just try to run their
'applications' on it till it breaks and then give it to some
acquaintance etc. or 'professional' to (try to) fix.

  Luckily, I have no such users in my circle of family, friends, etc..
Only one (heavy) Windows user, but he's an IT professional. Others are
mostly Apple users (phones, tablets, laptops, 'desktops'), who mostly
seem to get by without too many problems (or at least they don't bother
me with them :-)).

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21 Dec 24 * Re: The problem with not owning the software200Mr. Man-wai Chang
23 Dec 24 +* Re: The problem with not owning the software179Mr. Man-wai Chang
24 Dec 24 i`* Re: The problem with not owning the software178Ant
25 Dec 24 i +* Re: The problem with not owning the software176Mr. Man-wai Chang
25 Dec 24 i i+- Re: The problem with not owning the software1Ant
25 Dec 24 i i`* Re: The problem with not owning the software174Lawrence D'Oliveiro
27 Dec 24 i i `* Re: The problem with not owning the software173Mr. Man-wai Chang
28 Dec 24 i i  +* Re: The problem with not owning the software157Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Dec 24 i i  i+- Re: The problem with not owning the software1Mr. Man-wai Chang
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29 Dec 24 i i  i iii i`* Re: The problem with not owning the software14Carlos E.R.
30 Dec 24 i i  i iii i `* Re: The problem with not owning the software13Frank Slootweg
31 Dec 24 i i  i iii i  `* Re: The problem with not owning the software12Carlos E.R.
31 Dec 24 i i  i iii i   `* Re: The problem with not owning the software11Frank Slootweg
31 Dec 24 i i  i iii i    +* Re: The problem with not owning the software9Chris Ahlstrom
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2 Jan 25 i i  i iii i    ii  `* Re: The problem with not owning the software3Chris
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31 Dec 24 i i  i iii i    `- Re: The problem with not owning the software1Carlos E.R.
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29 Dec 24 i i  i iii +- Re: The problem with not owning the software1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Dec 24 i i  i iii +* Re: The problem with not owning the software4-hh
30 Dec 24 i i  i iii i+- Re: The problem with not owning the software1Carlos E.R.
30 Dec 24 i i  i iii i`* Re: The problem with not owning the software2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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30 Dec 24 i i  i iii `* Re: The problem with not owning the software3Chris
31 Dec 24 i i  i iii  `* Re: The problem with not owning the software2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
31 Dec 24 i i  i iii   `- Re: The problem with not owning the software1Chris
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29 Dec 24 i i  i ii`* Re: The problem with not owning the software65Frank Slootweg
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30 Dec 24 i i  i ii   +* Re: The problem with not owning the software3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Dec 24 i i  i ii   i`* Re: The problem with not owning the software2-hh
31 Dec 24 i i  i ii   i `- Re: The problem with not owning the software1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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30 Dec 24 i i  i ii   `* Re: The problem with not owning the software57Chris
31 Dec 24 i i  i ii    `* Re: The problem with not owning the software56Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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1 Jan 25 i i  i ii      `* Re: The problem with not owning the software54Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jan 25 i i  i ii       +* Re: The problem with not owning the software3DFS
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2 Jan 25 i i  i ii        +- Re: The problem with not owning the software1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jan 25 i i  i ii        `* Re: The problem with not owning the software47Chris
2 Jan 25 i i  i ii         `* Re: The problem with not owning the software46Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jan 25 i i  i ii          `* Re: The problem with not owning the software45Chris
4 Jan 25 i i  i ii           `* Re: The problem with not owning the software44Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jan 25 i i  i ii            +* Re: The problem with not owning the software4Chris
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i`* Re: The problem with not owning the software3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i `* Re: The problem with not owning the software2Chris
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  `- Re: The problem with not owning the software1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jan 25 i i  i ii            +* Re: The problem with not owning the software10DFS
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4 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i`* Re: The problem with not owning the software7DFS
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4 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i i `* Re: The problem with not owning the software3Stéphane CARPENTIER
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4 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i`* Re: The problem with not owning the software27Sn!pe
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i `* Re: The problem with not owning the software26Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  +* Re: The problem with not owning the software14Chris
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i+- Re: The problem with not owning the software1Sn!pe
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i`* Re: The problem with not owning the software12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i `* Re: The problem with not owning the software11Chris
6 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i  `* Re: The problem with not owning the software10Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i   `* Re: The problem with not owning the software9Chris
6 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i    `* Re: The problem with not owning the software8Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i     `* Re: The problem with not owning the software7Chris
7 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i      `* Re: The problem with not owning the software6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i       +- Re: The problem with not owning the software1rbowman
7 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i       `* Re: The problem with not owning the software4Chris
8 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i        `* Re: The problem with not owning the software3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jan14:28 i i  i ii            i  i         `* Re: The problem with not owning the software2Chris
8 Jan22:28 i i  i ii            i  i          `- Re: The problem with not owning the software1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  +* [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software5Sn!pe
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i`* Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i  `* Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Jan18:21 i i  i ii            i  i   `- Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software1DFS
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  +* [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software5Sn!pe
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i+* Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software3-hh
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  ii`* Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software2Chris Ahlstrom
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  ii `- Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software1-hh
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  i`- Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software1Sn!pe
5 Jan 25 i i  i ii            i  `- Re: The problem with not owning the software1Chris
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