Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon

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Sujet : Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon
De : this (at) *nospam* ddress.is.invalid (Frank Slootweg)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.advocacy alt.comp.os.windows-11
Date : 25. Mar 2025, 16:25:02
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CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-03-24 3:08 p.m., Frank Slootweg wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-03-24 2:41 p.m., Frank Slootweg wrote:
[...]
    AFAIC, this 'AMD stuttering' issue is old and fixed 'news'.
>
    See the January thread 'This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS --
If Your Time Is Worth Nothing' in these groups.
>
    See Andrzej Matuch's post [1] in that thread and my and his responses.
>
    As mentioned in my last response [2], in my case there was a BIOS
firmware update.
>
[1] Message-ID: <z0ldP.24349$DPp5.18068@fx01.iad>
[2] Message-ID: <vl92ie.qp8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
>
Except that it's not fixed. Some manufacturers might have provided a
BIOS to fix the issue, but most have yet to do so on the laptop side. My
model computer, the Zephyrus GA401QM, hasn't had a BIOS update since
2023. Everyone expected that the 415 update would fix the issue since it
was repeatedly mentioned by users, but ASUS never bothered to fix it.
The most likely reason is because they can't.
 
   In the previous thread, Andrzej references
<https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-acknowledges-ftpm-stuttering-issues-promises-a-bios-fix-in-may>
 
   From that, I understand that AMD supplies the fix to the manufacturers,
which of course have to integrate it in their firmware. If those
manufacturers - in your case ASUS - fail to do so, that's hardly AMD's
fault. That's the risk of using fTPM, instead of a real TPM.
 
   As I said, my system was fixed and - as I mentioned in the other
thread - that is a (2022) (HP) *laptop*.
 
Did the latest (or any previous) BIOS update mention fixing fTPM
specifically? I ask because it is also possible that the problem is
still there but that you haven't yet encountered it.

  To be [f|F]rank, you could well be right. The 'Fixes'/'Revision
history' I have (the publicly available ones) do not specifically
mention fixing fTPM, only general comments such as "improved security"
and "improved system stability".

  As I mentioned in the other thread, this was the only BIOS update
which was force installed and was released after the AMD fTPM problem
was fixed by AMD.

  Bottom line: I think the problem was fixed in my laptop, but don't
have any actual proof.

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