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Le 19-03-2024, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> a écrit :What's clear? "Yes" or "No", are you explicitly claiming that the work done by full time UI professionals is invariably bad?Plus you're implying that the work done by full time UI professionals isI'm not implying anything. It's clear.
bad
Because you're trying to outwardly go beyond your personal opinion.... but do you have any credible citations for that? Cite, please.Why should I cite anyone?
When I'm using my computer, I not askingMerely your non-professional opinion...right? Have you ever even worked professionally with any UI designers? UI researchers? Obviously, not.
anyone how he feels about it. I can see by myself that the GUI designed
by UI professionals are slowing me. So they're bad and it needs to be
changed. I have nobody to cite and I really see no reason why I should.
Because your sample size of n=1 is more profound than n=millions that the professionals work with. "Check!" /sNo.And>
finely, you can use the time spend by others to start from something
almost ready to adapt it easily to your own needs.
That's an argument to go with whoever has the larger marketshare, as
they've had the greatest amount of user UI feedback to optimize from.
When I want a theme, I can find a few even with a limited marketExcept you're failing to show how your choice provides for an objectively more productive UI. It is clear that you don't know if you're becoming more productive or less based on your UI choice.
share. I don't find the exact one that I want, but I can find easily a
close enough one. When I want a way to do something, I can find someone
who needed it before me or something close. Without need of market
share.
Not so, because you've not quantified what the productivity hit was this allegedly "bad UI": you merely claiming something doesn't make it true.Yes, but the amount of time added is less than the time I would loose byThere's a lot of>
configuration files and ideas to help you improve your configuration
effortlessly.
Still isn't a zero amount of time ... which adds up the more you tweak.
using a default done by a bad UI designer.
Utterly unsubstantiated claim.Nope. I know tools designed by professionals. They are not mean to beSo yes, I value my time and my confort. And you didn't gave me anything>
to mow because your way would make me lost a lot of time and comfort.
Precisely the reason to trust professionals to be closer to offering a
more optimal UI.
efficient but to be beautiful and use by someone who don't want to learn.
Nope. I'm saying that the UI professionals know what they're doing, and that there's productivity value gained through UI standardization.That's exactly my point. Thanks a lot for your support. You reallyWhen I do something it's useful for a really long time. For example,>
When I started to learn about tilling Windows Managers, it was with
wmii. Then I was able to use a lot of its configuration to switch to
i3wm. And then, it was the same with swaywm. So with the lot of
similarities between the WM, I used the same shortcuts and I didn't need
to learn anything new. For a very few time invested during the years.
Unlike Windows, which changed everything with each upgrade and I needed
a few months to find my way out each time.
Which for users who don't need to know how to program tiling, but just
use the UI, this is relevant...how?
dismissed my points because you consider they are irrelevant when you
don't understand them.
I'll rephrase it.
You say: "If you value your time, do my way."
I say: "I value my time and your way will slow me and make me lose myThat does appear to be what you're saying, but it was done without you offering objective proof that "your way" actually is more productive, either for you or for anyone else.
time."
You say: "Your arguments are irrelevant for people who don't like yourIncorrect. In addition to noting (above) that you've not come close to substantiating your claim, I'm saying here that the UI developers are optimizing for their majority use case. Plus those users do not need to get down into the weeds of UI is driven by wmii, i3wm, or swaywm. Indeed, the very fact that you called out those protocols is an illustration of how far you're off of consideration of the mainstream use case. Finally, I've noted that there is positive value in productivity in there being UI standardization.
way."
And that's where your arguments are garbage. I don't care about the wayIts perfectly fine for you to optimize "for you". The problem that you have is, as already noted above, you have no objective substantiation that you're actually optimizing it even for just yourself.
the others are using their computers. I care about the way I'm using
mine.
So, when you say: "Do my way because others don't like your way, it'sNope. You are totally free to be stupid and refuse to apply the Best Practices as applied by pro's who are paid to do this sort of work.
better for you.", it's just shit.
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