Re: This FOSS Thang :-)

On 3/26/24 12:29 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

-hh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
 

On 3/24/24 8:21 PM, chrisv wrote:

Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
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-highhorse wrote:

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Because you're trying to outwardly go beyond your personal opinion.

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My opinion on my way of using my computer is a thousand times worthiest
than your opinion of my way of using my own computer. No study can prove
otherwise.

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Exactly.  Freedom-haters, like -highhorse, just don't "get it".

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Re-arrange your cotton, chrisv:  I'm telling Stéphane that there's other
users so it isn't "his way is best" for everyone.  Industry pros make
their UI changes based on objective standards and research data, ...

 If so, then, at least on Windows, why is the (often clumsy to use) desktop
constantly churning with each release? Why is the Teams UI so abysmal?

The rate of change in the Windows UI just isn't all that fast or dramatic.  For example, tje {min/max/close} icons for a desktop UI files window are still in the upper right corner, just as its been since at least Windows 95 came out ~30 years ago.  Similarly, 'Start' menu bottom left, etc.

Why is Outlook such a clusterfuck?

Its still a lot better than some other integrated mail/calendar apps, and I've invariably been able to find my preferred "3 pane" UI setup on each new PC I get, for as long as I can remember (2009, if not earlier).

Why so cluttered with unnecessary popups?

What pop-ups?  Sure, there's a few when there's a major update of something, to try to inform you of new features, but after a week or so, those should have been user-acknowledged to dismiss them, so they're then gone.

My corporate (copro-ate?) laptop now shows a cutesy little icon next to
the search pane, changing each day. Teams keeps popping up a box advertising a
"New Feature! Try it!" or "Got it".

I found MS-Teams similar:  if there is some "New!" dialog, just take the effort to acknowledge their marketing hype nag and they're dismissed forever...well, at least until the next Sys IT hard reset/major upgrade, whichever comes first.

And then the Corp lathers on all kinds of stuff to try to be "helpful"
(though that's not really Microsoft's fault).

Which we're wise enough to not try to blame it on the OS provider.

I would prefer the desktop stay out of my way. That's why my Linux desktop has
no icons or "start" menu (a right-click on the desktop brings up a menu; and
each can be torn off so that it stays on the desktop.)

Um...we've seen your "elegant" desktop before...
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/Chris_Ahlstrom-Facebook_Linux-desktop.jpg>

 

...which
both you and Stéphane lack when attempting to make your arguments be
convincing:  you're following the path of 'Religious Zealot'.

 Dude, you're trying to say that people cannot strongly prefer something not
provided by the vendor?
 

No.  What I'm saying is simply that no matter how loudly they try to stomp their feet, their mere personal preference doesn't constitute objective proof that the mainstream UI solution is allegedly as horrible as they try to claim.
-hh