Re: Windows victims: go ahead and pretend you don't want or need the greatest PC software available

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Sujet : Re: Windows victims: go ahead and pretend you don't want or need the greatest PC software available
De : andrzej (at) *nospam* matu.ch (Andrzej Matuch)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 11. May 2024, 14:09:54
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On Sat, 11 May 2024 07:53:45 +0000, RonB wrote:

On 2024-05-10, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
On Fri, 10 May 2024 17:41:49 +0000, RonB wrote:
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On 2024-05-09, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
On Thu, 09 May 2024 12:07:27 +0000, RonB wrote:
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On 2024-05-09, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
On Wed, 08 May 2024 22:45:47 +0000, RonB wrote:
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On 2024-05-08, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
On 2024-05-07 10:07 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2024-05-07, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
royalties:
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On 2024-05-07 8:08 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
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On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com>
wrote in <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
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https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
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ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this
masterful Windows application.
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It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>
Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since
1999.
ONE competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame
the entire universe of FOSS crapware developers that have
tried to do what this guy does.
>
Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS
of info, but it's basically unreadable.  The output is made
for...
I don't know who the intended audience is, but it's not
regular users.
>
This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows
exists, there's no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
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It doesn't prove squat, GUI-boi.
>
You're mocking him for enjoying a GUI? What decade are you in?
< snip >
>
The 2020's, where I can use vim, gnu autotools, meson, gcc/g++,
clang/clang++,
slrn, mutt, mpd + ncmpcpp, alsamixer, git, latex, ssh, and more
in a terminal window.
>
I do use gvim when I want edit two or more source-code files
side by side. Use zathura to read PDFs. GIMP for
photo-tweaking. Libreoffice for short how-tos. Conky for system
info. GUI browsers mostly. And of course the sddm display
manager and the fluxbox window manager.
>
I'm not mocking him for enjoying a GUI, I'm mocking him for
crowing like a fool about it, as if there's only one true way
to us a computer.
 
I'm using slrn to respond to this post. It's efficient and
quick.
What does DuFuS "think" I'm supposedly losing by using this CLI
app instead of a GUI application?
>
I think the most common complaint of people using Linux CLI or
GUI tools is that they look dated. I'm not sure why this is such
a problem,
especially if they still manage to get the job done, for free, in
the same amount of time.
 
"Looks dated," seems like a superficial way to judge an
application.
But to each their own. I know slrn gets the job more quickly and
efficiently than a GUI app would.
>
For what it's worth, I've just abandoned Betterbird and Thunderbird
for Usenet since I am convinced that a bug in the software is
responsible for the Usenet problems I've been having of late. Good
old Pan works fine with Blocknews, but everything else seems to
have trouble negotiating a connection. I've decided to just use a
web app for my e-mail (which gives me a more direct access to how
the server will handle my e-mail anyway), and Pan for Usenet rather
than bundle both services in one app.
 
I think I quit using Thunderbird for newsgroups shortly after I
started using Linux. I didn't particularly like the interface, but
(more importantly)
I once posted an email to my brother (accidentally) on a newsgroup.
That's when I went to Pan. slrn came a few years later.
 
I used to use websites for my email, but decided I didn't like that.
Thunderbird (or another email client) is more convenient for me.
>
The advantage of using a web app for my e-mail provider (Posteo), is
that I can create filters directly on the account rather than within
a program.
This way, I don't have to start from scratch every time I reinstall
my operating system or whatever. Additionally, it allows me to buy
credit for the service, enable/disable encryption of my
inbox/calendar/contacts, set up MIME encryption and anything else
directly. Web apps are also a lot less taxing on the laptop's battery
than an application like Thunderbird/ Betterbird.
 
Betterbird is taxing on the battery? More so than a network
connection?
 
At any rate, whatever works for you is your best choice.
 
Just so you know though, you can just copy your Thunderbird (or
Betterbird)
profile directory to your new machine and everything is there — I
believe everything is there, at any rate. I know I've done this a few
times.
>
I'm aware, but I think I'll just try using the web version of my e-mail
for a while anyway. I'm tired of encountering bugs wherever I go, and
the web interface doesn't seem to have any.
 
The main thing that drives me nuts about Thunderbird is that, when I
pick a specific font (and choose that as my default), it reverts back to
the generic font whenever I sneeze, or move my cursor wrong or whatever.
I think Microsoft Word used to do that too. What part of "this is my
default font" don't they understand? It's part of the Microsoft Word
disease, where the retarded program is trying to think for you.

Admittedly, I don't recall Thunderbird ever respecting my choice of font.

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10 May 24   ii    i  `- Re: Windows victims: go ahead and pretend you don't want or need the greatest PC software available1Chris Ahlstrom
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14 May 24   ii         `* Re: Windows victims: go ahead and pretend you don't want or need the greatest PC software available5Andrzej Matuch
14 May 24   ii          `* Re: Windows victims: go ahead and pretend you don't want or need the greatest PC software available4candycanearter07
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