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Re: IBM 5120 (was: Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).)

Sujet : Re: IBM 5120 (was: Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).)
De : bowman (at) *nospam* montana.com (rbowman)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 27. Jun 2024, 09:05:16

Autres entêtes

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On 27 Jun 2024 05:56:43 GMT, vallor wrote:

I think this is the system I first has a paying job programming. The
system I remember had 3 "partitions" that could run 3 different programs
simultaneously, and came with a DE/RPG II compiler, which I used to
write software for a Farmers Insurance agent.

Definitely not the 5120. It had two languages available, BASIC and APL
with a toggle to select one or the other. The keyboard had the necessary
APL squiggles if you went that route. There was a debugger that you could
use to dig around. IBM did offer 'BRADS', which was sort of a dumbed down
report generator. The BRADS software itself supposedly couldn't be
accessed but the 'protection' consisted of one byte at the beginning of
the floppy. The degugger could read and write to disk so it didn't take
long to figure out the difference between the user created programs that
could be accessed and the BRADS code that couldn't and zero out the byte.

It used a PALM processor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PALM_processor

I don't know for sure but that may have been the beginning of the end for
that sort of architecture. The follow on System/23 had a similar form as
the 5120 but used an 8085. It was also in the 20k range with all the bells
and whistles and afaik only had the BASIC ROM and not APL.

The PC was a 5150. I don't know why they didn't retire the 51xx series
since it had nothing to do with the 5100/5110/5120. The System/23 series
was 53xx and has a lot more PC DNA. There were other factors at the time
but the familiarity with the 8085 was a plus for using the 8088. I don't
know why they licensed Microsoft BASIC rather than going with their own.
The midrange System/34 was primarily set up for RPG II but did offer
BASIC.

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8 May 24	Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	216	Relf
8 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	215	Joel
8 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	214	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	33	rbowman
8 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	31	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	30	rbowman
8 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	29	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	28	rbowman
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	27	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	26	rbowman
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	25	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	2	rbowman
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	22	Stéphane CARPENTIER
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	4	rbowman
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	3	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	2	rbowman
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	17	Farley Flud
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	16	Stéphane CARPENTIER
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	15	Farley Flud
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	13	Stéphane CARPENTIER
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	7	Farley Flud
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Joel
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	rbowman
12 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	3	Stéphane CARPENTIER
12 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Stéphane CARPENTIER
13 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Chris Ahlstrom
12 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Chris Ahlstrom
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	5	rbowman
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	4	Stéphane CARPENTIER
12 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	2	rbowman
12 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Chris Ahlstrom
12 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	DFS
8 May 24	I MANUALLY uninstalled Python 3.6.	1	Relf
8 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	22	Farley Flud
8 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	4	rbowman
8 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	2	Farley Flud
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	rbowman
8 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	candycanearter07
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	17	Stéphane CARPENTIER
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	14	rbowman
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	7	Stéphane CARPENTIER
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	5	rbowman
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	3	Stéphane CARPENTIER
12 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	2	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Stéphane CARPENTIER
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	5	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	4	rbowman
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	3	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	2	rbowman
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
15 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Sebastian
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	2	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Stéphane CARPENTIER
8 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	158	DFS
8 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	157	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	151	rbowman
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	150	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	149	rbowman
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	148	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	147	rbowman
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	146	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	145	rbowman
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	135	DFS
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	133	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	132	rbowman
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
15 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	130	Sebastian
15 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	4	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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16 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	2	Sebastian
16 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Andrzej Matuch
15 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	125	Chris Ahlstrom
15 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Chris Ahlstrom
15 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	123	Andrzej Matuch
16 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	97	Sebastian
16 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	96	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
16 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	95	rbowman
17 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	94	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
17 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	rbowman
17 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	2	rbowman
19 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	RonB
19 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	90	Sebastian
28 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	89	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Joel
28 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Joel
29 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	86	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	2	RonB
29 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Joel
29 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Joel
29 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Joel
3 Jun 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	81	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jun 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	79	Joel Crump
25 Jun 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	78	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Jun 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	77	Joel
25 Jun 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	rbowman
25 Jun 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	75	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jun 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	RonB
16 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	17	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
16 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	4	Chris Ahlstrom
17 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	4	RonB
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	rbowman
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	8	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Chris Ahlstrom
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 May 24	Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension).	4	candycanearter07