Re: Linux 6.11

On 2024-09-29, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:

Le 29-09-2024, Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> a écrit :
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Unlike vim, emacs, and joe, cooledit is a graphical editor with a
complete GUI interface.

TO LESTER: And that's why I like JOE, it DOESN'T have a GUI interface and I
don't want one. I use the Jstar variation, which uses WordStar keystrokes
and keeps my hands on the keyboard's "home" keys, without moving to a mouse
or Function keys. Much faster and more efficient. If I want a GUI "editor"
I'll use a word processor. I also use WordStar 7.0d in DOSBox-X for the same
reason when I want to more easily format my document.

You see? I don't know about joe, but the main reason behind vim and
Emacs is to avoid the mouse. So the GUI is useless. There are some way
in which a mouse is a good way to use an application, but not in text
editors. In half of your messages you say that the GUI is for the inapt
users and you claim the GUI as a good thing in one of the few area it's
the easiest way to avoid the mouse you are promoting the GUI.

Same with JOE for avoiding the mouse. In addition to a jstar variant, JOE
also supports Emacs and and Pico keystrokes, jmac and jpico.

I try to promote cooledit but the narrow-minded, parochial imbeciles
in this group will summarily reject it because it boggles their little
minds.

TO LESTER: I tried cooledit once and I didn't like it. It seemed unnecessarily
convoluted, if I remember correctly. But if you like it, I'm happy for you.
But what makes you think people are "stupid" because they don't prefer YOUR
choice of an editor? I like JOE, but I'm sure not going to call people
"imbeciles" because they don't like it or won't try it. What is it with
control freaks that they always think the only way is THEIR way?

You promoting way is so bad that the only arguments you provide will
convince other who never heard about it to stay as far away of it as
possible.

Agreed. If the argument for cooledit is that you can take graphical
screenshots and insert them into a newsgroup discussion, that sounds like a
good reason NOT to use it. If I want graphics in my documents, I'll use a
word processor.

(Sorry for butting into your conversation, I guess I have Lester Thorpe
killfiled.)

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