Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

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Sujet : Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
De : commodorejohn (at) *nospam* gmail.com (John Ames)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 26. Dec 2024, 20:59:11
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 19:27:45 +0000
Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> wrote:

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  You were a farce since the day you
were born.

Never claimed otherwise!

All image editors, like all word processors, spreadsheets,
and accounting software, etc., are EXACTLY the same.  They all
do the same fucking thing and none of them can stake a claim
on having the definitive GUI.
 
But idiots like you, will always be duped.

I'm not even stating that as a criticism; there's nothing wrong with
copying what works, and in fairness even Photoshop has a clear lineage
back to MacPaint. But pretending that there's no imitation going on,
when GIMP started out looking like one version of Photoshop, and its
big "facelift" revision served to make it look like the newer versions
of Photoshop, is just silly.

The biggest difference is that Photoshop's workflow
and UX choices are generally well thought-out and helpful, while
GIMP's are clunky and awkward.
 
Only to a mental asshole like you.

Clearly, I am dealing with a master of rhetoric.

(I could write an essay on how slackass GIMP's UI design is - I have,
elsewhere, and if you'd like I can go and dig it up - but I think a
single example will suffice to illustrate the general point: the GIMP
team have *no* idea what the point of keyboard accelerators is. They
*have* accelerators, but they frequently assign the same letter to
multiple elements in a single menu/window, so that instead of being
able to quickly navigate through the most commonly-used paths by muscle
memory - as you can in Photoshop and other well-designed professional
software suites - you have to sit there hitting the same key multiple
times until you can visually confirm that the focus has cycled to the
option you want, at which point you might as well have just used the
mouse.)

True artists, and their cerebral programming side, envision
in their minds the concepts first and the GUIs much, much later,
if at all.

I mean, it's certainly true that form ought to follow function, and
that *working well* is more important than being slick. But good
functionality and good UI design are *not* mutually exclusive, and
treating UI design as if it's a "later, if at all" consideration is a
good way to produce software that is intuitive only to its developer(s).

My advice to you is simple:
 
Keep out of professional territory.  You will remain a cheap
dilettante until your dying day.

I shall treat this golden wisdom with the reverence it deserves. Thank
you, O great sage, for blessing me with the insights of your mighty
brain.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

*Master* of rhetoric.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
26 Dec 24 * GIMP 3.0.0-RC1556Chris Ahlstrom
26 Dec 24 `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1555Farley Flud
26 Dec 24  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC145John Ames
26 Dec 24  i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC133Farley Flud
26 Dec 24  ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC132John Ames
26 Dec 24  ii +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC130Farley Flud
26 Dec 24  ii i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11John Ames
27 Dec 24  ii i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC15The Natural Philosopher
27 Dec 24  ii ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14Farley Flud
27 Dec 24  ii ii +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
27 Dec 24  ii ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Physfitfreak
28 Dec 24  ii ii  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Physfitfreak
27 Dec 24  ii i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC123TJ
27 Dec 24  ii i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC122The Natural Philosopher
28 Dec 24  ii i  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC120-hh
28 Dec 24  ii i  i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Physfitfreak
29 Dec 24  ii i  i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC118-hh
29 Dec 24  ii i  i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC116Farley Flud
29 Dec 24  ii i  i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11-hh
29 Dec 24  ii i  i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC114TJ
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC111rbowman
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC19Carlos E.R.
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14Carlos E.R.
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13The Natural Philosopher
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Carlos E.R.
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13The Natural Philosopher
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
29 Dec 24  ii i  i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
28 Dec 24  ii i  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Farley Flud
27 Dec 24  ii `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
26 Dec 24  i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
27 Dec 24  i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC18rbowman
27 Dec 24  ii+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11RonB
27 Dec 24  ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC16Chris Ahlstrom
27 Dec 24  ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC15rbowman
27 Dec 24  ii  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14Chris Ahlstrom
27 Dec 24  ii   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13rbowman
28 Dec 24  ii    `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Chris Ahlstrom
28 Dec 24  ii     `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
27 Dec 24  i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Chris Ahlstrom
27 Dec 24  i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11John Ames
27 Dec 24  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1449Farley Flud
28 Dec 24  i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1448186282@ud0s4.net
28 Dec 24  i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC119Farley Flud
28 Dec 24  i i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC112The Natural Philosopher
28 Dec 24  i ii+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Diego Garcia
29 Dec 24  i ii+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Dec 24  i ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC19186282@ud0s4.net
29 Dec 24  i ii +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC16D
29 Dec 24  i ii i+* Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs)2Lars Poulsen
30 Dec 24  i ii ii`- Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs)1rbowman
30 Dec 24  i ii i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13D
31 Dec 24  i ii i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12186282@ud0s4.net
31 Dec 24  i ii i  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
29 Dec 24  i ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12The Natural Philosopher
29 Dec 24  i ii  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Dec 24  i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lem Novantotto
29 Dec 24  i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)5Lars Poulsen
29 Dec 24  i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)1Carlos E.R.
29 Dec 24  i i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Dec 24  i i i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)1Lars Poulsen
29 Dec 24  i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)1-hh
28 Dec 24  i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1251Computer Nerd Kev
29 Dec 24  i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1250D
30 Dec 24  i i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1249D
30 Dec 24  i i  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Carlos E.R.
30 Dec 24  i i  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Computer Nerd Kev
31 Dec 24  i i  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1246D
1 Jan 25  i i   +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jan 25  i i   i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Chris Ahlstrom
1 Jan 25  i i   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1243D
1 Jan 25  i i    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC124rbowman
1 Jan 25  i i    i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12D
2 Jan 25  i i    ii`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
2 Jan 25  i i    i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jan 25  i i    i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC119The Natural Philosopher
2 Jan 25  i i    ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC118D
3 Jan 25  i i    ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC117186282@ud0s4.net
3 Jan 25  i i    ii  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
3 Jan 25  i i    ii  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Carlos E.R.
4 Jan 25  i i    ii  i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jan 25  i i    ii  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC113D
3 Jan 25  i i    ii   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC112John Ames
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC15D
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14rbowman
5 Jan 25  i i    ii    i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13Physfitfreak
5 Jan 25  i i    ii    i  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12The Natural Philosopher
7 Jan 25  i i    ii    i   `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11186282@ud0s4.net
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14D
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12The Natural Philosopher
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    ii`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
2 Jan 25  i i    i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
1 Jan 25  i i    +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jan 25  i i    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1216D
2 Jan 25  i i    `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11John Ames
29 Dec 24  i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1177-hh
27 Dec 24  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Chris Ahlstrom
27 Dec 24  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC159Carlos E.R.

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