Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing

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Date : 02. Jan 2025, 05:46:25
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On Wed, 1/1/2025 6:17 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
On 2025-01-01 14:34, Joel wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jan 2025 14:45:44 GMT, Gregg Fowler wrote:
>
Beta software is beta software. An OS is an OS.
>
And Microsoft is the only one shipping a beta-quality OS and expecting its
users to rely on that for mission-critical production work.
>
>
Yeah, weird, huh?  It's like they can't make it right from the
beginning, they need people to put up with bugs to test it in the
wild, how is their internal testing so poor?  Being on the cutting
edge with M$ is just spinning one's wheels.  Linux is the refuge.
 
If Windows 11 didn't routinely become unbootable from an update that
Microsoft didn't test under certain conditions, I'd disagree with Joel here.
However, it seems that it happens with every one of their cumulative updates.

What does this "unbootable" mean exactly ?

Do you have just Windows on a disk by itself, and after
every Cumulative, the OS does not boot ? If it does not
boot, does it try three times until concluding the
repair procedures did not work ? And if the OS did not boot,
I presume at some point it did not boot and you were stuck.

Did you have a multiboot, GRUB was in control of the menu,
GRUB would no longer start (but the Windows Boot Manager entry
in the popup boot did work?). Generally, the only time Windows
breaks GRUB, is when adding a C: to the disk via Clean Install.

*******

Did you "Clean Install" to resume operation ? Every time ?
If multi-booting, this would require the (linux) Boot Repair CD, for
easiest GRUB repair. I've used that a few times, and for simple
setups, it can work.

The thing I have trouble with, is seeming damage to the Microsoft
folder in UEFI partition. I don't know of a simple way to 're-pave"
the files in there, like while running from a DVD. It may be
possible to restore /EFI/Microsoft from a backup (Macrium could
put the whole partition back), but for people without a backup,
I don't know of a solution that is direct and to the point.

   Paul



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