Sujet : Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
De : TJ (at) *nospam* noneofyour.business (TJ)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc comp.os.linux.advocacyDate : 04. Jan 2025, 16:58:09
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On 2025-01-03 20:57, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/01/2025 18:37, -hh wrote:
On 1/3/25 11:43 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/01/2025 16:31, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
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On 03/01/2025 13:32, -hh wrote:
Sea levels have already risen by 4 inches since 1993, and hard science
has found the primary energy imbalance reason why: its anthropometric.
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Sea level rise has been 3mm/yr for the last 4000 years. Nothing has changed
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This source disagrees:
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https://ocean.si.edu/through-time/ancient-seas/sea-level-rise
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Also, sea level is *not* the same all over the world. The article mentions that
as well.
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It's an interesting read.
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Well I will merely quote from the Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_sea_level
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"Sea level has changed over geologic time. As the graph shows, sea level today is very near the *lowest level ever attained* (the lowest level occurred at the Permian-Triassic boundary about 250 million years ago)."
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"Recently, it has become widely accepted that late Holocene, 3,000 calendar years ago to present, sea level was nearly stable prior to an acceleration of rate of rise that is variously dated between 1850 and 1900 AD."
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*Long before any CO2 excess was present*.
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Yes, the rate of raise was nearly stable **before** the Industrial Age.
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Which is the point: the contemporary acceleration in the rate of rise is a change, and it is coincident with the advent of the Industrial Age.
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But LONG before any distinctive rise in CO2, which really dint start until post WWII
So no correlation with CO2 at all.
Try not to be a climate denier
I don't know much about sea level changes. I live about 250 miles from the sea, so I don't have to deal with it. But that doesn't mean I can deny the changes in the climate right here where I live.
I'm a farmer, the third generation of my family to own and operate this small chunk of the world. Among other crops, we have raised vegetables and sold them on a roadside farm stand since 1962. We have records going back most of that time, with small notes about things like the weather.
50 years ago, while there were exceptions (there are ALWAYS exceptions when taking about weather trends), we could pretty much count on the first killing frost happening between September 20 and the 25th.
The last 10 years or so, that event has moved to October 5-10. And in 2024, the first killing frost was on October 25th.
So the climate IS changing. I've watched it do so. But is it natural, or man-made? In my layman's opinion, it's probably both. The basic mechanism is probably natural, augmented by Man's contribution.
But what can we do about it? Little of any significance, unless we are willing to take drastic measures - kill off about half the human population, give up modern power-hungry technology, that sort of thing.
I'm not willing to do that, and I don't think anyone else is, either. So what I'll do is continue to take advantage of the changes that are happening, adapting as best I can.
I can now grow fruits and vegetables that I couldn't dream of 50 years ago. Better, long-season varieties that I couldn't grow when I was a kid. For now, the climate is changing toward being better, here. That won't last, but it'll probably last longer than I do.
TJ