Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

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Sujet : Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
De : recscuba_google (at) *nospam* huntzinger.com (-hh)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 04. Jan 2025, 19:43:23
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On 1/4/25 10:58 AM, TJ wrote:
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I don't know much about sea level changes. I live about 250 miles from the sea, so I don't have to deal with it. But that doesn't mean I can deny the changes in the climate right here where I live.
I'm close enough to the US Eastern Seaboard that it affects our weather, and if winter precipitation is going be as snow, sleet or rain.

I'm a farmer, the third generation of my family to own and operate this small chunk of the world. Among other crops, we have raised vegetables and sold them on a roadside farm stand since 1962. We have records going back most of that time, with small notes about things like the weather.
 50 years ago, while there were exceptions (there are ALWAYS exceptions when taking about weather trends), we could pretty much count on the first killing frost happening between September 20 and the 25th.
 The last 10 years or so, that event has moved to October 5-10. And in 2024, the first killing frost was on October 25th.
I've casually noticed a similar trend; for our garden the first killing frost would nominally be in mid-September, but particularly the last few years has been later.  This year, it wasn't until November.  It was great to have two more harvests of lima beans, but it also sucks to be cleaning leaves out of gutters after Christmas instead of Thanksgiving.

So the climate IS changing. I've watched it do so. But is it natural, or man-made? In my layman's opinion, it's probably both. The basic mechanism is probably natural, augmented by Man's contribution.
Oh, its of course going to be a sum of multiple contributors; the question has invariably been not that, but of what relative magnitudes and rates relative to each other.

But what can we do about it? Little of any significance, unless we are willing to take drastic measures - kill off about half the human population, give up modern power-hungry technology, that sort of thing.
There's been some increasingly serious discussions on what the geoengineering options are.  Some are relatively affordable, such as stopping the use of cleaner bunker oil in shipping, so as to reintroduce SOx pollution.  Others are probably well-intentioned from an Engineering standpoint, but are viewed as being politically expedient to not change the current Status Quo - basically, its only practical if a third party subsidizes it, instead of the polluter source.

I'm not willing to do that, and I don't think anyone else is, either. So what I'll do is continue to take advantage of the changes that are happening, adapting as best I can.
 I can now grow fruits and vegetables that I couldn't dream of 50 years ago. Better, long-season varieties that I couldn't grow when I was a kid. For now, the climate is changing toward being better, here. That won't last, but it'll probably last longer than I do.
I've seen arguments made where it won't matter because CO2 is plant food, so we'll be able to grow triple-canopy jungle everywhere which will 'quickly' sequester the excess CO2 into wood .. but that misses that there's more than just CO2 needed to grow trees, such as nutrition+sun+rain, all in the correct proportions.
-hh

Date Sujet#  Auteur
26 Dec 24 * GIMP 3.0.0-RC1556Chris Ahlstrom
26 Dec 24 `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1555Farley Flud
26 Dec 24  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC145John Ames
26 Dec 24  i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC133Farley Flud
26 Dec 24  ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC132John Ames
26 Dec 24  ii +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC130Farley Flud
26 Dec 24  ii i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11John Ames
27 Dec 24  ii i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC15The Natural Philosopher
27 Dec 24  ii ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14Farley Flud
27 Dec 24  ii ii +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
27 Dec 24  ii ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Physfitfreak
28 Dec 24  ii ii  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Physfitfreak
27 Dec 24  ii i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC123TJ
27 Dec 24  ii i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC122The Natural Philosopher
28 Dec 24  ii i  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC120-hh
28 Dec 24  ii i  i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Physfitfreak
29 Dec 24  ii i  i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC118-hh
29 Dec 24  ii i  i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC116Farley Flud
29 Dec 24  ii i  i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11-hh
29 Dec 24  ii i  i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC114TJ
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC111rbowman
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC19Carlos E.R.
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14Carlos E.R.
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13The Natural Philosopher
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Carlos E.R.
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13The Natural Philosopher
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
31 Dec 24  ii i  i i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
30 Dec 24  ii i  i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
29 Dec 24  ii i  i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
28 Dec 24  ii i  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Farley Flud
27 Dec 24  ii `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
26 Dec 24  i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
27 Dec 24  i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC18rbowman
27 Dec 24  ii+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11RonB
27 Dec 24  ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC16Chris Ahlstrom
27 Dec 24  ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC15rbowman
27 Dec 24  ii  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14Chris Ahlstrom
27 Dec 24  ii   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13rbowman
28 Dec 24  ii    `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Chris Ahlstrom
28 Dec 24  ii     `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
27 Dec 24  i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Chris Ahlstrom
27 Dec 24  i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11John Ames
27 Dec 24  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1449Farley Flud
28 Dec 24  i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1448186282@ud0s4.net
28 Dec 24  i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC119Farley Flud
28 Dec 24  i i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC112The Natural Philosopher
28 Dec 24  i ii+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Diego Garcia
29 Dec 24  i ii+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Dec 24  i ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC19186282@ud0s4.net
29 Dec 24  i ii +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC16D
29 Dec 24  i ii i+* Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs)2Lars Poulsen
30 Dec 24  i ii ii`- Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs)1rbowman
30 Dec 24  i ii i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13D
31 Dec 24  i ii i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12186282@ud0s4.net
31 Dec 24  i ii i  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
29 Dec 24  i ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12The Natural Philosopher
29 Dec 24  i ii  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Dec 24  i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lem Novantotto
29 Dec 24  i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)5Lars Poulsen
29 Dec 24  i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)1Carlos E.R.
29 Dec 24  i i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Dec 24  i i i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)1Lars Poulsen
29 Dec 24  i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)1-hh
28 Dec 24  i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1251Computer Nerd Kev
29 Dec 24  i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1250D
30 Dec 24  i i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1249D
30 Dec 24  i i  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Carlos E.R.
30 Dec 24  i i  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Computer Nerd Kev
31 Dec 24  i i  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1246D
1 Jan 25  i i   +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jan 25  i i   i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Chris Ahlstrom
1 Jan 25  i i   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1243D
1 Jan 25  i i    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC124rbowman
1 Jan 25  i i    i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12D
2 Jan 25  i i    ii`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
2 Jan 25  i i    i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jan 25  i i    i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC119The Natural Philosopher
2 Jan 25  i i    ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC118D
3 Jan 25  i i    ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC117186282@ud0s4.net
3 Jan 25  i i    ii  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
3 Jan 25  i i    ii  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Carlos E.R.
4 Jan 25  i i    ii  i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jan 25  i i    ii  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC113D
3 Jan 25  i i    ii   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC112John Ames
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC15D
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14rbowman
5 Jan 25  i i    ii    i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13Physfitfreak
5 Jan 25  i i    ii    i  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12The Natural Philosopher
7 Jan 25  i i    ii    i   `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11186282@ud0s4.net
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14D
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12The Natural Philosopher
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    ii`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
4 Jan 25  i i    ii    `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
2 Jan 25  i i    i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
1 Jan 25  i i    +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jan 25  i i    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1216D
2 Jan 25  i i    `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11John Ames
29 Dec 24  i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1177-hh
27 Dec 24  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Chris Ahlstrom
27 Dec 24  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC159Carlos E.R.

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