Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software

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Sujet : Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software
De : recscuba_google (at) *nospam* huntzinger.com (-hh)
Groupes : alt.comp.os.windows-11 comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 05. Jan 2025, 04:34:42
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On 1/4/25 10:08 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
On 2025-01-04 21:34, Sn!pe wrote:
Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
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On 2025-01-04 19:39, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 21:50:21 +0000, Sn!pe wrote:
[big snip]
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[OT] That's the great thing about Apple:  from the users' viewpoint it
all "just works".
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Until it doesn't. Why do you think Mac users feel the need for something
like Homebrew? That adds Linux-style package-manager functionality that is
missing from macOS. Because without it, trying to install open-source
software turns into a complete nightmare.
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I wanted to install something to calculate the wear on my MacBook M1's
storage and experienced this first-hand. It's much easier with Linux.
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Fair comment.  You're in a very small minority for wanting to do this.
 Sure, because Mac users typically don't care how the computer works; they just want to use the software to accomplish something. Checking wear, upgrading and changing components is all beneath them. Those who would wish to do such things are peons.
Reminds me of a friend who sends me an email 2x/year that's a copy of the report of the latest chemical analysis from his car's most recent oil change:  dude, its fine that you want your car to last, but its not going to be preserved in a museum!

Seriously though, I like the Apple-silicon Macs but I'm realizing that I'm not the kind of person who would be content knowing that whatever I purchased can't be changed in the slightest after purchase. I love how easily Apple hardware communicates with other Apple hardware and find MacOS to be a nice system, but I'm realizing that the best compromise for me is Linux delivered by a steady community like that of Fedora.
I think what changed for me was recognizing that I no longer need to go through extraordinary efforts to make an PC last a decade anymore, because their costs have declined so dramatically over the past 40 years.
-hh

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