Re: Where Are The Computer Companies?

On 2025-06-04 16:36, vallor wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 16:17:13 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
<101qk5p$13n57$7@dont-email.me>:
 

On 2025-06-04 16:13, vallor wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 22:48:38 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <101qig6$13glj$3@dont-email.me>:
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On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 08:41:29 -0700, Alan wrote:
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On 2025-06-04 00:14, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

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Nobody was disputing that Apple is a licensee of the “Unix”
trademark,
and is entitled to use it to label their products.
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This is why I like to use the term “*nix” with a meaning that has
nothing to do with the trademark, for how a system is supposed to
work. POSIX is a core part of that, of course. But there’s a lot
more to it. Linux and the BSDs conform to this “*nix” concept, while
Apple’s OSes do not.

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To which "core parts" do Apple's OSes not conform exactly?

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How about you go away and actually use some proper *nix systems for a
few years, then you can come back and show us how you’ve answered the
question for yourself.

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Actually, how about you log in to a shell on an Apple system and "see
for yourself".
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It's not only Unix, it's UNIX(r).

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Yup!
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I don't use the Terminal app all that often, but it's certainly there,
with the full suite of Unix programs.
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:-)

 He's trolling.  He's never logged in to a MacOS system.
 Tell you what, Lawrence -- if you're interested, I can facilitate you
logging in to a MacOS system (which is a Mac Studio, lower-end
workstation class), and you can satisfy yourself that it meets all
the POSIX requirements, both library and tools.
 But you know that's the case, because it's certified.  Or do you not
trust the Open Group to make that determination?
 

I wasn't sure that Apple still bothered to get the certification...
...so I checked!
Crazy idea that would never occur to someone was l337 as Lawrence!
<https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/>
Right at the top of the list (to be fair, because the list appears to be in alphabetical order):
'For details of the certification click the product links
Apple Inc.: macOS version 15.0 Sequoia on Apple silicon-based Mac computers
Apple Inc.: macOS version 15.0 Sequoia on Intel-based Mac computers'
(No wait! IBM is listed before HP!)
😜