Re: Where Are The Computer Companies?

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Sujet : Re: Where Are The Computer Companies?
De : nuh-uh (at) *nospam* nope.com (Alan)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 06. Jun 2025, 05:46:56
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On 2025-06-05 21:38, RonB wrote:
On 2025-06-05, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2025-06-05 00:55, RonB wrote:
On 2025-06-04, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 02:43:19 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
It is macOS that is “different” from how people expect a “Unix” system
to behave, not the Linuxes and BSDs. Offering a choice of GUIs (or no
GUI at all), is part of how people expect a “Unix” system to behave.
>
https://www.macrumors.com/2025/05/29/macos-26-rumored-to-drop-support-for-
these-macs/
>
I was surprised by that. Like the Windows 10 people who can't go forward
it sounds like Apple amy cause people with older Macs to go to Linux.
>
Since Apple sells both the hardware and OS, it seems even more self-serving
for them to "obsolete" their older Macs — although Microsoft might as well
own the OEM PC hardware market since they have a near strangle hold on it.
>
>
You're kidding, right?
>
The latest OS is macOS Sequoia 15.5...
>
...and it's compatible with Macs going back as far as 2017.
>
8 years of support is more than reasonable
 First, did you read the article linked that I was responding to? According
to them, the next Mac OS release is rumored to drop support for the
following Macs (one that came out in 2020)...
         MacBook Pro (2018)
 >      iMac (2019)>      iMac Pro (2017)
     Mac mini (2018)
     MacBook Air (2020, Intel-based)
     Second, even if the rumor is false (it comes from Apple Insider) 2017 would
mean the computer I'm now typing on would be "too old" by four years since
it came out in 2013, twelve years ago. (And it works fine.) Fortunately I
use Linux and don't have to worry about built-in obsolescence. I can still
use Linux on my computers as old as 2007. One computer I installed the
newest version of Linux Mint on was a 2012 Mac Mini — and it works fine.
And older Macs continue to work with older OSes...

 It's amazing what can be done when greed is taken out of the equation. To
me, NOT mandating an arbitrary EOL for your OS is "reasonable." Especially
in Apple's case where support is limited to a relatively few number of Mac
models. (Compare this to Microsoft's and Linux's support for almost endless
number of hardware configurations.)
So a business is expected to maintain compatibility with every piece of software its ever built?
 

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