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On 2025-06-05 21:45, RonB wrote:On 2025-06-05, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:>On 2025-06-05 00:57, RonB wrote:On 2025-06-04, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:>On Jun 3, 2025 at 8:08:29 PM EDT, "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid>>
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>On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 23:14:24 +0000, Tyrone wrote:>
>Fun fact: Macs/iPhones/iPads make up the largest installed base of Unix>
computers by a single company in the world.
What is “Unix”? It’s just a trademark. The original meaning of a
particular way for a computer system (OS and userland) to operate has
gone, and Apple played an instrumental part in killing it.
You repeating this does not make it true.
>>Unix does not look dead to me.>
When people think “Unix” nowadays, they really mean a Linux or BSD system.
That’s what works they way they expect a “Unix” system to work. Not Apple.
Only because everyone expects a "Unix" system to be ugly and obtuse.
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It sounds like you are confusing the GUI with the underlying OS. Underneath
it is a descendent of BSD, with a userland mainly from FreeBSD.
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MacOS/iOS/iPadOS are, in fact, Unix. Whether you like it or not.
Some people make the same argument for Android... I don't completely buy
into it, but Android does use the Linux (UNIX) kernel.
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macOS being Unix is a verifiable fact.
Whoop dee doo. Traditional UNIX trails modern Linux in features by a lot.
Color me unimpressed by the UNIX trademark. You do realize that the top 500
supercomputers all run Linux now, right? (Not one UNIX computer amonst them
and Windows presence in that list disappeared even earlier.) I don't think
Apple ever had any in that list. But, if they did, that was a long time ago.
And this is important to what ordinary PEOPLE need from computers...
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...how exactly?
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