Re: Where Are The Computer Companies?

On 2025-06-06, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2025-06-05 22:59, Joel wrote:

RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

On 2025-06-05, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2025-06-05 00:57, RonB wrote:

On 2025-06-04, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:

On Jun 3, 2025 at 8:08:29?PM EDT, "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid>
wrote:
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When people think “Unix” nowadays, they really mean a Linux or BSD system.
That’s what works they way they expect a “Unix” system to work. Not Apple.

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Only because everyone expects a "Unix" system to be ugly and obtuse.
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It sounds like you are confusing the GUI with the underlying OS.  Underneath
it is a descendent of BSD, with a userland mainly from FreeBSD.
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MacOS/iOS/iPadOS are, in fact, Unix.   Whether you like it or not.

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Some people make the same argument for Android... I don't completely buy
into it, but Android does use the Linux (UNIX) kernel.

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macOS being Unix is a verifiable fact.

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Whoop dee doo. Traditional UNIX trails modern Linux in features by a lot.
Color me unimpressed by the UNIX trademark. You do realize that the top 500
supercomputers all run Linux now, right? (Not one UNIX computer amonst them
and Windows presence in that list disappeared even earlier.) I don't think
Apple ever had any in that list. But, if they did, that was a long time ago.

 
 
macOS is nonexistent on a supercomputer, the fact that Windows NT can
operate one is a novelty I guess, but you're absolutely correct that
Linux rules that world, because it''s not proprietary, it;s open-
source, even.

Using Macs for supercomputers would be silly, but it says nothing
important about the inherent usefulness (or lack thereof) about Macs for
personal use.
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You know: that use case for which they are intended?
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:-)

Okay. I understand. Yes, it's true, Linux is much more adaptable to just
about any use, super computers, rendering farms, Internet servers, desktops,
routers... just about anything. It seems one of the biggest draws for the
Apple ecosystem is that integrates phone, tablet and computer. I don't like
the Cloud, so don't want this feature, but I can see why people might like
the integration.

That said, I think I've stepped into your ongoing debate with another
poster. So I'll try to let you have the last word here.

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