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Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>Is it easy for people who *don't* listen to your bullshit about using>
Gentoo and LFS, nimrod?
That should be, "Is it easy for people who listen to [...]"
I actually recommend Gentoo to people too. Just
for the Gentoo Handbook. It's an easy recipe to follow
up to a point.
>
When I've run Gentoo, it works best if you use it every
day. The fun happens if you don't boot it for six months,
then you attempt to catch up on "changes" over the six months.
>
The first time I got stuck in a "cant-go-forward",
"cant-go-back" package management issue, there were
comments about using biases to get out of it. I actually
managed to escape, and it was all working again.
>
But the package manager just kept getting thicker and
thicker. The next time I got caught in one of those
situations, I couldn't figure out how to escape and
keep the package management working.
>
I even set up a DISTCC server on my second PC that had
more cores (possibly the six core Test Machine), to help
my weaker daily driver do a make world. You need the same
distro state on both, for that to work.
>
It's fun as a technical challenge, but when something
breaks, it can be past my pay scale to fix. It's still
educational, and will make you more familiar with the
file tree.
>
I've been hacking things like that for a long time. My group,
working on UNIX boxes, we had sweet fuck all for software to
use at work. We didn't even have a web browser, when web
browsers first came out. Imagine trying to use Lynx to
collect engineering data fro electronics sites. But we used
to build our own novelty softwares in the X11R4/X11R5 era.
One department had their own X11R5 tree. I could have set one
up, but I didn't want too many questions about it. When they
caught me building a browser from source, they made me delete it.
That may have been NCSA Mosaic.
I just think it's absurd to try to manually set up the OS, if the idea
is to have a modern OS. Larry's system is so rudimentary. It's
impossible to understand why he treasures it, the obsession with
compiling relative to his exact hardware, etc. Debian with Cinnamon
gives one a Windows-like environment in Linux. It's just not
customizable to the Nth degree. He's stupid, retarded, obsessive. He
just needs to get a life.
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