Re: End Of 10 Project

On 2025/6/22 13:6:34, chrisv wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

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It is true if you include the writeoff of existing hardware which is still
fully functional, but cannot run Windows 11.

The price of the new PC is the entire cost.  There is no "writeoff" to
be added to arrive at the total cost of the upgrade.

Yes there is. If, all other things being equal, someone had budgeted for
a PC as having, say, two or three years' useful work in it (say, talking
until some hardware fails), but now find s/he now has to not only buy a
new computer but retire the old one, that cost certainly has to be
included in the cost of the "up"grade. (OK, less anything s/he can get
back by selling the old one. But that assumes they can find someone to
sell it to, who isn't also obliged to Move To The New.)>

That’s the problem: Microsoft is forcing users to incur extra costs, just
to boost its own bottom line.

That's not fair.  There are good reasons for the move.

There are always improvements (and degradations too, but I'll ignore
those for the moment); however, whether they are ones that will actually
benefit in a financial sense, isn't always clear, and is definitely
going to vary from business to business (and person to person). [I, for
example, didn't feel a _lot_ of benefit going from XP to 7, and can'
think of _anything_ - other than the below - that I've experienced
having had to move from 7 to 10. Computers mostly did all I wanted them
to do, somewhere around five to ten years ago.]The one (or two) aspects
for which people _have_ to upgrade are: 1. Security concerns. I
personally feel this aspect is exaggerated for the experienced user, but
I can see that particularly for the newbie, it _is_ a concern. For the
rest of us, yes, black-hat hackers will continue to find holes, that
might not be patched, in older OSs - but I think the incidence of
exploitation of those is perhaps of a similar order to the exploitation
of new holes in the new OS? 2. Things not remaining compatible with the
older OS. I'd say the majority of such are web pages, where they use
some feature of browsers, which is not present on versions of browsers
old OSs support. This _ought_ not to be a problem, but is, because web
developers tend to use the latest versions of development tools, which
use new features by default. (Often, even where compiling for the older
versions actually offers no new feature - they just default to the new.
[Like .docx rather than .doc, and the other parts of Office; I've yet to
encounter anyone who actually _uses_ whatever new features that change
involved.])
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