Re: Falling Windows Market Share

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Sujet : Re: Falling Windows Market Share
De : nospam (at) *nospam* needed.invalid (Paul)
Groupes : alt.comp.os.windows-11 comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 25. Jun 2025, 21:53:37
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On Wed, 6/25/2025 8:03 AM, chrisv wrote:
chrisv wrote:
 
M$ is doing great, and will continue to do so for many years.  They
don't make hardware.  They don't to compete with, or depend upon, the
Asians.
 
Well, Asians make some hardware for M$, but I think the M$ has
options, there.  Unlike so many tech companies that are dependant upon
TSMC.
 

Microsoft buys finished components from companies. It could use
Intel (Intel/TSMC) or AMD (TSMC) for x86 processors. It is using Qualcomm (TSMC)
for some ARM chips.

They can define functions such as Pluton, but someone else builds
those (AMD made a laptop CPU with a Pluton in it, nothing heard
since).

Otherwise, it's mostly logic board design.

Microsoft no longer makes mice and keyboards. One of their keyboard
designs is still in limited production, by some other company.

The only reason Microsoft makes hardware, is to "pretend they are Apple".
Which they are not :-)

The customers on the other hand, are so price sensitive, it's ridiculous.
This is why I'm seeing questions now about NUC-like boxes. Intel made NUC
boxes for a while, the interest was limited to "rich people". Intel
would not drop the price. Intel has exited the NUC market, Asus got
the formfactor from them. But now, the pricing is competitive,
and the price of these things will drop into the sewer, and so
will the performance. And Intel gets to sell some of its two-core
processors (in the year 2025) -- a huge money maker, I'm sure.
The BGA (ball grid array soldered-down processor) chips on the Intel site,
don't normally list prices.

   Paul

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Jun 25 * Falling Windows Market Share22Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Jun 25 +* Re: Falling Windows Market Share8%
25 Jun 25 i`* Re: Falling Windows Market Share7Paul
25 Jun 25 i +* Re: Falling Windows Market Share3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Jun 25 i i+- Re: Falling Windows Market Share1rbowman
25 Jun 25 i i`- Re: Falling Windows Market Share1Paul
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26 Jun 25 i `* Re: Falling Windows Market Share2CtrlAltDel
26 Jun 25 i  `- Re: Falling Windows Market Share1Chris Ahlstrom
25 Jun 25 +* Re: Falling Windows Market Share8Tyrone
25 Jun 25 i+- Re: Falling Windows Market Share1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Jun 25 i`* Re: Falling Windows Market Share6Paul
25 Jun 25 i +* Re: Falling Windows Market Share4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Jun 25 i i+- Re: Falling Windows Market Share1rbowman
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2 Jul01:56 `* Re: Falling Windows Market Share2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jul02:30  `- Re: Falling Windows Market Share1Paul

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