On 6/25/25 11:53 PM, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 21:56:30 -0700, T wrote:
On 6/25/25 9:39 PM, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 19:02:00 -0700, T wrote:
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On 6/25/25 5:46 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
Another daily-diary article, this time trying out a few Linux distros
that might offer a less painful transition for Windows users
<https://www.tomshardware.com/news/live/before-windows-10-goes-eol-
im-
testing-three-alternative-linux-distros-to-save-my-6-year-old-laptop-
from-
the-landfill>.
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A lot of the time, it seems to me, the hardest step for a Windows
user is copying a bootable Linux image (either live OS or installer)
onto a USB stick. What would be a quick, easy job on Linux itself
requires a fair bit of faffing about with third-party tools on
Windows.
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https://fedoraproject.org/spins KDE, MATE, and Xfce are all great.
gnome is too weird to be usable.
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There are two easy ways to burn a flash drive with a Linux ISO from
Windows:
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Rufus Web Site:
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https://rufus.ie/ https://rufus.akeo.ie/
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Fedora Media Write for Linux and Windows:
https://fedoraproject.org/en/workstation/download
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Fedora is less complicated. You will notice when running that it
calls some libraries from Rufus
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I don't remember the details but Fedora Media Write didn't work for me
and I wound up using rufus. I would not call it 'a fair bit of farfing
around'.
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Fly before you buy!
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Did you try KDE?
Yes, I'm running the KDE Fedora. When I installed it it was a spin but now
it's a full fledged version. Fedora has worked out well and I knew what I
was getting into but it's not a distro if you don't like updating it
frequently.
$ dnf history list
ID Command line Date and time Action(s) Altered
65 dnf update 2025-06-26 06:37:18 24
63 dnf update 2025-06-25 04:45:02 152
62 dnf update 2025-06-24 00:55:03 118
61 dnf update 2025-06-19 21:53:46 431
60 dnf update 2025-06-13 05:40:12 54
59 dnf update 2025-06-11 19:31:51 106
58 dnf update 2025-06-10 04:09:00 60
56 dnf update 2025-06-08 03:55:24 384
55 dnf update 2025-06-06 07:18:00 94
54 dnf update 2025-06-01 06:21:12 96
Ubuntu is nowhere that intense.
Fedora s "next to bleeding edge". Fedora has an army of
testers that make sure things work before updating.
Almost nothing gets by them. Almost, bet very seldom.
The updates will calm down after a bit.
Update that are tested and reliable. What is this world
coming to???!!!
My list:
$ dnf history list | grep -v update | grep -v upgrade | grep -v remove
ID Command line Date and time Action(s) Altered
141 dnf install waterfox-classic-kpe-2022 2025-06-13 22:30:05 2
124 dnf -y install ffmpeg ffprobe 2025-05-19 00:22:20 1
119 dnf install oneko 2025-05-09 21:55:06 1
117 dnf install dump-0.4-0.59.b52.fc41.x8 2025-05-08 09:57:06 1
115 dnf install borgbackup 2025-05-08 03:45:51 3
112 dnf install device-mapper-devel e2fsp 2025-05-05 06:24:00 5
102 dnf install LibreOffice_25.2.2.2_Linu 2025-04-14 05:05:30 43
97 dnf downgrade notify-send 2025-04-04 11:12:31 4
92 dnf install ssmtp 2025-03-24 10:26:17 1
89 dnf install wps-office-11.1.0.11723.X 2025-03-03 10:37:54 1
81 dnf install wine-devel 2025-02-12 05:40:32 2
75 dnf install winehq-stable 2025-02-02 08:11:50 3
73 dnf install winehq-stable 2025-02-02 01:52:36 3
71 dnf install winehq-stable 2025-02-02 01:39:01 41
69 dnf install winehq-stable 2025-01-31 02:43:03 3
67 dnf install wine-9.15-1.fc41.i686 2025-01-31 01:31:39 74
65 dnf install winetricks --allowerasing 2025-01-31 00:58:32 9
64 dnf install winehq-staging 2025-01-31 00:43:19 3
62 dnf install samba-winexe 2025-01-31 00:05:05 51
61 dnf install winehq-stable 2025-01-30 23:22:33 3
58 dnf install winehq-stable 2025-01-29 05:57:07 3
56 dnf install winehq-stable 2025-01-28 22:38:04 3
54 dnf install wine 2025-01-23 03:27:47 77
52 dnf install helpwire-operator.rpm 2025-01-21 02:01:06 1
50 dnf install simplescreenrecorder 2024-12-27 04:42:15 1
48 dnf install xrandr 2024-12-23 10:36:39 1
47 dnf install brightnessctl 2024-12-22 11:12:16 1
46 dnf downgrade firefox --releasever=40 2024-11-23 01:58:06 4
45 dnf downgrade firefox 2024-11-23 01:50:17 4
44 dnf install snapd snapd-selinux 2024-11-19 10:35:13 4
42 dnf install anydesk-6.3.3.1.el8_x86_6 2024-11-16 09:17:40 1
39 dnf install hll2300dcupswrapper-3.2.0 2024-11-11 09:56:32 2
32 dnf reinstall libgit2 --allow-downgra 2024-11-03 00:24:21 2
28 dnf reinstall bind-libs --allowerasin 2024-11-03 00:08:09 2
26 dnf reinstall printer-driver-brlaser 2024-11-02 01:28:49 2
25 dnf install printer-driver-brlaser -- 2024-11-02 01:24:31 1
5 /usr/bin/dnf -y distro-sync 2024-11-02 00:49:29 6
1 dnf reinstall dnf* --allowerasing --r 2024-11-01 11:41:41 18
Date | Sujet | # | | Auteur |
26 Jun 25 | Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 169 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
26 Jun 25 |  Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 25 | | T |
26 Jun 25 |   Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 2 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
26 Jun 25 |    Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | T |
26 Jun 25 |   Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 22 | | rbowman |
26 Jun 25 |    Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 9 | | T |
26 Jun 25 |     Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 8 | | rbowman |
26 Jun 25 |      Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 7 | | T |
26 Jun 25 |       Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 6 | | rbowman |
26 Jun 25 |        Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 5 | | T |
27 Jun 25 |         Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 4 | | rbowman |
27 Jun 25 |          Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 3 | | T |
27 Jun 25 |           Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 2 | | rbowman |
27 Jun 25 |            Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | T |
27 Jun 25 |    Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 7 | | Paul |
27 Jun 25 |     Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 6 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
28 Jun09:04 |      Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 4 | | T |
28 Jun18:56 |       Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Paul |
28 Jun20:53 |       Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 2 | | T |
29 Jun10:37 |        Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Daniel70 |
1 Jul18:00 |      Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | candycanearter07 |
28 Jun05:14 |    Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 5 | | T |
28 Jun06:42 |     Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 4 | | rbowman |
28 Jun07:06 |      Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 3 | | T |
28 Jun08:29 |       Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 2 | | rbowman |
28 Jun09:02 |        Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | T |
26 Jun 25 |  Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 5 | | Alan K. |
26 Jun 25 |   Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Paul |
26 Jun 25 |   Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 3 | | rbowman |
27 Jun 25 |    Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 2 | | T |
27 Jun 25 |     Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | rbowman |
26 Jun 25 |  Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 113 | | Paul |
26 Jun 25 |   Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 52 | | Hank Rogers |
27 Jun 25 |    Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 47 | | T |
27 Jun 25 |     Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 24 | | Paul |
27 Jun 25 |      Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
28 Jun01:19 |      Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 22 | | Hank Rogers |
28 Jun01:35 |       Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
28 Jun06:37 |       Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 3 | | rbowman |
28 Jun07:17 |        Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 2 | | Paul |
28 Jun08:27 |         Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | rbowman |
28 Jun07:26 |       Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 5 | | T |
28 Jun09:19 |        Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 4 | | Paul |
28 Jun09:26 |         Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 3 | | T |
28 Jun10:18 |          Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 2 | | Paul |
28 Jun10:56 |           Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | T |
28 Jun12:52 |       Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 3 | | Chris |
28 Jun19:07 |        Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Paul |
28 Jun23:47 |        Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
28 Jun20:56 |       Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 8 | | T |
28 Jun23:51 |        Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 7 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
29 Jun02:18 |         Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 6 | | T |
29 Jun04:20 |          Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 4 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
29 Jun05:05 |           Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 2 | | rbowman |
29 Jun07:20 |            Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | T |
29 Jun07:10 |           Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | T |
29 Jun04:52 |          Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | rbowman |
29 Jun10:54 |       Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Daniel70 |
28 Jun02:48 |     Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 20 | | T |
28 Jun03:03 |      Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 5 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
28 Jun05:16 |       Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 4 | | T |
28 Jun05:26 |        Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 3 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
29 Jun23:07 |         Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 2 | | vallor |
1 Jul18:00 |          Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | candycanearter07 |
28 Jun06:49 |      Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 11 | | rbowman |
28 Jun07:03 |       Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 10 | | T |
28 Jun08:37 |        Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 6 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
28 Jun09:06 |         Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 5 | | T |
28 Jun23:53 |          Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 4 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
29 Jun02:20 |           Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 3 | | T |
29 Jun04:21 |            Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 2 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
29 Jun07:21 |             Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | T |
28 Jun08:57 |        Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 3 | | rbowman |
28 Jun09:10 |         Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 2 | | T |
28 Jun19:36 |          Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | rbowman |
28 Jun12:08 |      Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | J. P. Gilliver |
28 Jun15:05 |      Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Chris |
28 Jun23:55 |      Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
29 Jun01:37 |     Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Rufus To Save My Laptop From The Landfill (was: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill) | 2 | | Tyrone |
29 Jun02:05 |      Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Rufus To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Hank Rogers |
28 Jun23:45 |    Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 2 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
29 Jun01:17 |     Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Hank Rogers |
28 Jun23:46 |    Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
28 Jun23:46 |    Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
27 Jun 25 |   Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 59 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
27 Jun 25 |    Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 55 | | T |
27 Jun 25 |     Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 54 | | J. P. Gilliver |
28 Jun02:41 |      Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 53 | | T |
28 Jun03:06 |       Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 52 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
28 Jun05:15 |        Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 51 | | T |
28 Jun05:27 |         Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 18 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
28 Jun06:43 |          Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 17 | | T |
28 Jun06:55 |           Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | T |
28 Jun08:37 |           Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 15 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
28 Jun09:16 |            Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 13 | | T |
28 Jun23:58 |             Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 12 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
29 Jun02:23 |              Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 11 | | T |
29 Jun04:22 |               Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 10 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
29 Jun06:32 |                Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 9 | | T |
30 Jun00:53 |                 Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 8 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
30 Jun02:25 |                  Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | % |
30 Jun07:39 |                  Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 6 | | J. P. Gilliver |
28 Jun20:59 |            Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | T |
28 Jun12:10 |         Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 2 | | J. P. Gilliver |
28 Jun21:10 |         Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 30 | | T |
27 Jun 25 |    Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 3 | | Paul |
27 Jun 25 |   Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 1 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
27 Jun 25 |  Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill | 25 | | WolfFan |