Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill

On Sat, 6/28/2025 7:52 AM, Chris wrote:

Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:

Joel wrote on 6/27/2025 6:08 PM:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 6/27/2025 11:28 AM, Joel wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 6/26/25 3:20 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:

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I just used rufus to make a USB install drive

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Same thing I do with me W10 customers.  I think
folks are making too big a deal out of all this.

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And when M$ suddenly and without warning makes it impossible to run
Win11 with unsupported hardware?

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I'm climbing into my bunker now. I'm eating the beans.
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Oh no I'm not. I'm running Oracle Linux !!! :-)
It has a picture of a bronze statue of an adonis
with a goatee on his chin, as the cover art.
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I'm using a DE, where I have to do a lot of clicking
to switch between screen modes, yes I am. I feel
free free free!!! And I'm proud of the fact I can't have
icons on my desktop. Nasty nasty things, those desktop icons.
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See, two can play the fud game. Your outcome is just
as silly as mine.

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A distro can do weird things, it doesn't mean all others would do the
same.
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How can we weed out the bad distros and only install good distros?  I
hope it's not a random thing.

 
I'd recommend one of the Ubuntu LTS (longterm support) variants. Great
community and fully supported for five years. The std Ubuntu tries too hard
to look like macOS, Xubuntu is nice and lightweight and Kubuntu is bit
heavier but cleaner that ubuntu
 

And how many distros are there?  Is there a good method to navigate all
these distros?  Maybe something like a distro explorer, or distro browser?

 
Hundreds. But only a dozen mainstream ones.

This is why you *wouldn't* do that.

-a----  Wed, 8, 17, 2022   3:31 AM     2514124800 ubuntu-18.04.6-desktop-amd64.iso
-a----  Thu, 2, 24, 2022   7:30 PM     3071934464 ubuntu-20.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
-a----  Thu, 9, 15, 2022   4:31 AM     3864182784 ubuntu-20.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso

-a----  Sat, 8, 13, 2022   9:28 AM     3826831360 ubuntu-22.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso

-a----  Sat, 6, 17, 2023  11:29 AM     4932407296 ubuntu-23.04-desktop-amd64.iso
-a----  Fri, 10, 20, 2023  7:19 AM     5173995520 ubuntu-23.10.1-desktop-amd64.iso
-a----  Wed, 6, 12, 2024   1:49 PM     6114656256 ubuntu-24.04-desktop-amd64.iso
-a----   Wed, 3, 5, 2025   8:13 PM     6343219200 ubuntu-24.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso   <=== SNAPs make it fat, like a pig.
                                                                                          At initial install, utilities not there!
                                                                                          But fat pig SNAPs are there.

Now, let us compare to Linux Mint (same package tree, but .deb packaged)

-a----  Mon, 2, 21, 2022  10:53 AM     2162147328 Linux Mint 20.2.iso
-a----   Thu, 6, 9, 2022   8:44 AM     2251653120 linuxmint-20.3-cinnamon-64bit.iso
-a----   Mon, 5, 9, 2022  11:34 AM     2239365120 linuxmint-20.3-mate-64bit.iso
-a----  Thu, 8, 11, 2022  11:20 AM     2449342464 linuxmint-21-cinnamon-64bit.iso
-a----  Mon, 2, 20, 2023   1:00 PM     2681571328 linuxmint-21.1-cinnamon-64bit.iso
-a----  Mon, 7, 10, 2023   5:15 AM     3018856448 linuxmint-21.2-cinnamon-64bit-beta.iso
-a----  Fri, 1, 12, 2024   1:30 AM     3067232256 linuxmint-21.3-cinnamon-64bit.iso
-a----  Mon, 9, 16, 2024   4:41 AM     3117514752 linuxmint-21.3-mate-64bit.iso
-a----  Sun, 4, 14, 2024  12:27 PM     3033710592 linuxmint-21.3-xfce-64bit.iso
-a----  Sat, 7, 27, 2024   5:03 AM     2907832320 linuxmint-22-cinnamon-64bit.iso
-a----   Tue, 2, 4, 2025   3:32 AM     2980511744 linuxmint-22.1-cinnamon-64bit.iso
-a----  Wed, 1, 22, 2025   2:48 PM     2983428096 linuxmint-22.1-mate-64bit.iso       <=== Debian -- Ubuntu --   based, -snap
-a----  Thu, 2, 29, 2024   5:15 PM     2690580480 lmde-6-cinnamon-64bit.iso           <=== Debian based

Linux Mint is usable out of the box.
It has utilities, when you expect the command line utilities.
Like say, GParted, if you want to partition your disk drive.

The SYSTEMD setup isn't as dreadful. You won't be held hostage
by 90 second timeout SYSTEMD operations that failed during boot,
when you try to shut down Ubuntu.

   Paul