Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)

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Sujet : Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)
De : ldo (at) *nospam* nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 01. Jul 2025, 01:29:12
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:50:40 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded wrote:

In comp.os.linux.misc, Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>
The XDG spec aims to keep this clutter under control.
 
Does it? Or does it just create a new closet to sweep them into?

It actually creates a closet to pack things into, whereas before all those
files were lying loose around the floor of your bedroom (aka $HOME). It
actually helps to clean up your room.

Most of the Linux distros around already contain those libraries. The
whole freedesktop.org group has widespread support among *nixes.
They're not some "fringe" group as you might think.
 
Yeah, but I run plenty of programs that don't use those libraries and
are unlikely to do so.

Many projects have converted. E.g Blender did this some years ago.
Inkscape and GIMP do too. I think newer ones just do it as a matter of
course.

Not all the world is Linux, and tools like xfig predate Linux.

Freedesktop specs aren’t supposed to be Linux-specific.

Also XDG has a very limited understanding of how people may organize
files. I don't have a "templates" directory, I'm not even sure what I'd
put in one.

There are people accustomed to, shall we say, more “object-oriented” ways
of doing things. Instead of opening an “Untitled” document in the app, and
then having to select the name and place to save it with/in for the first
time, using a template lets you start with a document already named and
placed correctly (and with some suitable initial settings), which you then
open in the app to insert the actual content.

I don't have a "music" directory, and I don't need one.

Neither do I, technically. The stuff I download is kept separate from the
stuff I create myself.

Here are the directories I want to use to organize things:

Suit yourself. Free Software is all about choice.

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23 Jun 25 * Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.70pH
23 Jun 25 +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.6Robert Heller
23 Jun 25 i`* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.5pH
23 Jun 25 i +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2Robert Heller
23 Jun 25 i i`- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirectories, card-dealing style.1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jun 25 i +- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1rbowman
24 Jun 25 i `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1pH
23 Jun 25 +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Jun 25 i`- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1pH
23 Jun 25 +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.5Eli the Bearded
24 Jun 25 i`* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.4pH
24 Jun 25 i `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.3Rich
24 Jun 25 i  `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2Eli the Bearded
24 Jun 25 i   `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jun 25 +- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1c186282
23 Jun 25 +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.54Richard Kettlewell
24 Jun 25 i+* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.44pH
24 Jun 25 ii`* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.43Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Jun 25 ii +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.4c186282
24 Jun 25 ii i`* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.3rbowman
24 Jun 25 ii i `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2c186282
24 Jun 25 ii i  `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1rbowman
24 Jun 25 ii `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.38c186282
24 Jun 25 ii  `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.37Rich
24 Jun 25 ii   +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2rbowman
27 Jun20:46 ii   i`- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Rich
25 Jun07:14 ii   `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.34c186282
27 Jun20:49 ii    `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.33Rich
27 Jun23:34 ii     `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.32c186282
29 Jun00:06 ii      `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.31Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Jun04:41 ii       `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.30Eli the Bearded
29 Jun05:44 ii        +- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Jun10:35 ii        +* XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)26Nuno Silva
30 Jun00:58 ii        i`* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)25Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Jun06:18 ii        i +* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)20Eli the Bearded
30 Jun07:52 ii        i i`* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)19Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Jun19:50 ii        i i +* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)13Eli the Bearded
30 Jun21:15 ii        i i i+* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)5John Ames
1 Jul01:30 ii        i i ii+- Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul08:38 ii        i i ii`* Re: XDG and Freedesktop3Richard Kettlewell
1 Jul20:49 ii        i i ii `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop2John Ames
2 Jul00:57 ii        i i ii  `- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul00:14 ii        i i i+- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Bobbie Sellers
1 Jul01:29 ii        i i i`* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul04:40 ii        i i i `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)5Eli the Bearded
1 Jul05:28 ii        i i i  `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul17:01 ii        i i i   `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)3John Ames
1 Jul17:10 ii        i i i    +- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Bobbie Sellers
2 Jul00:57 ii        i i i    `- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul00:07 ii        i i `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop5Nuno Silva
1 Jul01:33 ii        i i  `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul07:02 ii        i i   `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop3Nuno Silva
1 Jul08:30 ii        i i    +- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul14:36 ii        i i    `- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Rich
1 Jul00:12 ii        i `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop4Nuno Silva
1 Jul01:21 ii        i  `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul05:20 ii        i   `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop2Eli the Bearded
1 Jul05:25 ii        i    `- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul18:00 ii        `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2candycanearter07
1 Jul20:29 ii         `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Eli the Bearded
29 Jun11:30 i`* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.9Carlos E.R.
30 Jun01:17 i +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.6Fritz Wuehler
30 Jun06:53 i i+* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2Eli the Bearded
30 Jun07:55 i ii`- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Jun07:05 i i`* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.3c186282
30 Jun21:32 i i `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2Eli the Bearded
1 Jul01:34 i i  `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Jun08:40 i +- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1The Natural Philosopher
30 Jun13:03 i `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Carlos E.R.
27 Jun21:57 `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Shadow

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