Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why?

On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 14:10:23 -0700, John Ames wrote:

I don't care *what* people offer as a novelty geegaw as long as it
doesn't get in the way of the regular workflow.

Previously you seemed to have an objection to such things existing in the
first place. So that’s progress, at least.

I'm not talking about implementation details on the kernel level; I'm
talking about the way that nothing in GUI-land interacts meaningfully
with the traditional *nix toolset, and vice versa. It's a two-headed dog
sort of thing, only one dog is written in Objective-C and Swift.

That’s a limitation of platforms like those from Apple and Microsoft,
where the GUI is inextricably bound into the OS kernel at quite a low
level.

This is contrary to the *nix philosophy. See how many Linux GUI tools, for
example, are just front ends to CLI/scriptable back ends -- or at least
offer the option to run in CLI/scriptable mode. This way you can easily
automate functions by directly talking to the CLI/script interface,
instead of trying to pull puppet strings in the GUI via some clumsy fake-
mouse-clicks-and-keystrokes GUI automation tool.