Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy

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Sujet : Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy
De : peter_flass (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (Peter Flass)
Groupes : alt.folklore.computers comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 09. Nov 2024, 00:49:38
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The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 08/11/2024 00:57, Peter Flass wrote:
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 11:40:50 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
 
Spending 8 hours a day including 3 hours of coffee and lunch breaks
doens't compare with digging up ten tons of soil and wheel barrowing it
to a donkey cart to build a Roman road.
 
I worked one summer for a contractor building a new development. Most of
the work was building leach fields which required pushing wheelbarrows of
gravel along 2x12 planks to dump in the ditches. In would drive to work
morning using my palms on the steering wheel since it took a while for my
fingers to work.
 
Other tasks were little better, strictly grunt work. It could have been
1960 or 196 AD.
 
 
I was thinking more of the small merchant or craftsman. Live above the
shop, no commute. Do some work in the morning, go to the games in the
afternoon. About the equivalent work week to what we have - two days off a
week, although randomly distributed.
 
The vast majority of people in mediaeval and Roman Britain were peasants
pure and simple. Bluesmock workers.
 
To have a trade or be in trade and be part of a guild was a huge step up
to the middle classes  was being a servant in the Lords manor house.
 
Or you could become a monk.
No worries, cradle to the grave socialism, but not much in the way of
food, no shagging (officially) and an awful lot of god bothering. But
you learnt to read and write
 

I think mediaeval monks ate pretty well, certainly better than the
peasants. Ascetics they weren’t.

--
Pete

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3 Nov 24 * Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy220Peter Flass
3 Nov 24 `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy219D
4 Nov 24  +* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy193rbowman
4 Nov 24  i+* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy191D
4 Nov 24  ii+* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy4The Natural Philosopher
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4 Nov 24  iii `- Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy1D
4 Nov 24  ii`* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy186rbowman
4 Nov 24  ii +* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy14The Natural Philosopher
4 Nov 24  ii i`* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy13D
5 Nov 24  ii i `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy12rbowman
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5 Nov 24  ii i  +- Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy1D
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4 Nov 24  ii `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy171D
5 Nov 24  ii  `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy170rbowman
5 Nov 24  ii   +* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy7D
5 Nov 24  ii   i+* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy3The Natural Philosopher
5 Nov 24  ii   ii+- Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy1rbowman
5 Nov 24  ii   ii`- Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy1D
5 Nov 24  ii   i+* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy2Rich
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5 Nov 24  ii   i`- Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy1rbowman
5 Nov 24  ii   +* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy9The Natural Philosopher
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8 Nov 24  ii    i ii i`* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy70D
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9 Nov 24  ii    i ii i i `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy43rbowman
9 Nov 24  ii    i ii i i  `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy42D
9 Nov 24  ii    i ii i i   `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy41rbowman
10 Nov 24  ii    i ii i i    `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy40The Natural Philosopher
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11 Nov 24  ii    i ii i i     ii `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy9D
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12 Nov 24  ii    i ii i i     ii   i`- Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy1D
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10 Nov 24  ii    i ii i i      `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy20D
11 Nov 24  ii    i ii i i       `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy19The Natural Philosopher
11 Nov 24  ii    i ii i i        `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy18rbowman
11 Nov 24  ii    i ii i i         `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy17The Natural Philosopher
11 Nov 24  ii    i ii i i          `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy16D
12 Nov 24  ii    i ii i i           `* Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy15The Natural Philosopher
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