Re: XDG and Freedesktop

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Sujet : Re: XDG and Freedesktop
De : * (at) *nospam* eli.users.panix.com (Eli the Bearded)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 01. Jul 2025, 05:20:16
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In comp.os.linux.misc, Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Document-application associations are an inseparable part of the whole
concept of a GUI.

Uh-huh. I think you fail to convey anything significant there.

Document-*TYPE* application associations (in the "preferences" not
"requirements" meaning of "association") existed before GUIs are are
baked into TUI and CLIs in various ways, consider $EDITOR and
mailcap configuration, which gets used by Pine and Elm.

Macintosh in the pre-"Unix inside" age (maybe still but I'm not looking
under the covers these days) associated an owner and type to a file --
an individual file -- both as four letter codes. Any program that could
open TEXT files could edit a TEXT file with say "File->Open". But if you
double-clicked an icon, it would try to use the program that owned the
file. That was a "document-application association" in the true sense.
You needed to edit the file itself to change what program would be the
default to open it, and there were power user tools to do just that.

Windows does it's own thing, the details of which I am blissfully
unaware of.

There's nothing stopping you or I from building some new system of
associations. Maybe file(1) could be modified to be a launcher. Or
a GUI could use directories as keys for the program to launch. There's
the Android model with common types managed by the OS and private
ones quite literally owned by the app (dedicated user per app along
the lines of daemons).

A Plan 9 system might create a union mount between a program and
the files for it, and under Plan 9 such mounts could be created
per process if needed.

Elijah
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used mgr ( hack.org/~mc/mgr/ ) briefly but does not recall how it worked there

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23 Jun 25 * Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.73pH
23 Jun 25 +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.6Robert Heller
23 Jun 25 i`* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.5pH
23 Jun 25 i +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2Robert Heller
23 Jun 25 i i`- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirectories, card-dealing style.1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jun 25 i +- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1rbowman
24 Jun 25 i `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1pH
23 Jun 25 +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Jun 25 i`- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1pH
23 Jun 25 +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.5Eli the Bearded
24 Jun 25 i`* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.4pH
24 Jun 25 i `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.3Rich
24 Jun 25 i  `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2Eli the Bearded
24 Jun 25 i   `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jun 25 +- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1c186282
23 Jun 25 +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.57Richard Kettlewell
24 Jun 25 i+* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.47pH
24 Jun 25 ii`* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.46Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Jun 25 ii +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.4c186282
24 Jun 25 ii i`* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.3rbowman
24 Jun 25 ii i `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2c186282
24 Jun 25 ii i  `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1rbowman
24 Jun 25 ii `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.41c186282
24 Jun 25 ii  `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.40Rich
24 Jun 25 ii   +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2rbowman
27 Jun20:46 ii   i`- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Rich
25 Jun 25 ii   `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.37c186282
27 Jun20:49 ii    `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.36Rich
27 Jun23:34 ii     `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.35c186282
29 Jun00:06 ii      `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.34Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Jun04:41 ii       `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.33Eli the Bearded
29 Jun05:44 ii        +- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Jun10:35 ii        +* XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)28Nuno Silva
30 Jun00:58 ii        i`* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)27Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Jun06:18 ii        i +* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)22Eli the Bearded
30 Jun07:52 ii        i i`* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Jun19:50 ii        i i +* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)15Eli the Bearded
30 Jun21:15 ii        i i i+* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)7John Ames
1 Jul01:30 ii        i i ii+- Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul08:38 ii        i i ii`* Re: XDG and Freedesktop5Richard Kettlewell
1 Jul20:49 ii        i i ii `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop4John Ames
2 Jul00:57 ii        i i ii  +* Re: XDG and Freedesktop2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jul09:33 ii        i i ii  i`- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Nuno Silva
2 Jul09:27 ii        i i ii  `- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1The Natural Philosopher
1 Jul00:14 ii        i i i+- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Bobbie Sellers
1 Jul01:29 ii        i i i`* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul04:40 ii        i i i `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)5Eli the Bearded
1 Jul05:28 ii        i i i  `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul17:01 ii        i i i   `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop (was: Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.)3John Ames
1 Jul17:10 ii        i i i    +- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Bobbie Sellers
2 Jul00:57 ii        i i i    `- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul00:07 ii        i i `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop5Nuno Silva
1 Jul01:33 ii        i i  `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul07:02 ii        i i   `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop3Nuno Silva
1 Jul08:30 ii        i i    +- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul14:36 ii        i i    `- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Rich
1 Jul00:12 ii        i `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop4Nuno Silva
1 Jul01:21 ii        i  `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul05:20 ii        i   `* Re: XDG and Freedesktop2Eli the Bearded
1 Jul05:25 ii        i    `- Re: XDG and Freedesktop1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Jul18:00 ii        `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.3candycanearter07
1 Jul20:29 ii         `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2Eli the Bearded
2 Jul19:20 ii          `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1candycanearter07
29 Jun11:30 i`* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.9Carlos E.R.
30 Jun01:17 i +* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.6Fritz Wuehler
30 Jun06:53 i i+* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2Eli the Bearded
30 Jun07:55 i ii`- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Jun07:05 i i`* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.3c186282
30 Jun21:32 i i `* Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.2Eli the Bearded
1 Jul01:34 i i  `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Jun08:40 i +- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1The Natural Philosopher
30 Jun13:03 i `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Carlos E.R.
27 Jun21:57 `- Re: Program to dole out jpg's to subdirctories, card-dealing style.1Shadow

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