Re: Crowdstrike fiasco

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Sujet : Re: Crowdstrike fiasco
De : rich (at) *nospam* example.invalid (Rich)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 20. Jul 2024, 19:57:06
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The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 20/07/2024 14:44, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
On 2024-07-19, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
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On Fri, 19 Jul 2024, Woozy Song wrote:
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Curiously, when I made a post to Reddit linux group, it got deleted
immediately. I thought they would be gloating that Windows got shafted.
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I'm gloating! I repeatedly tell a potential customer to change from
windows, and I think so far they asked me for an offer and an opinion 3
times (they had 3 security incidents), and yet they have never purchased
my services and they keep running into these problems. I'm gloating so
much. Sadly I don't think they will ever switch from their beloved
Microsoft though.
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I do use them often as an example of what happens if you have a crappy
IT-manager so I do derive benefits from their incompetence though! =)
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+1 I hope this serves as a lesson.
 
No, it wont.
 
You dont understan middle management in a company.
The IT managers career is best served by spending shitloads of money
with a company like crowdstrike which offers impressive legal guarantees
in its contracts.
Not by implementing a policy with some 'nerdy operating system' that his
boss doesn't know how to use. And developing an IT department to service
and support it.

You can tell those who have never worked with/in/near a large corporate
bureaucracy or govt bureaucracy IT department.  Those who have never
seen behind the curtain believe this will result in some kind of
change.

Those who have (and it does appear you have) recognize crowdstrike for
what it really is (hint, it is not for "securing" the endpoint systems
-- that is, at best, a secondary outcome).  Crowdstrike's real purpose
is to provide the IT bureaucracy with "risk insurance" (i.e.,
Crowdstrike is really an "insurance plan", even if not presented that
way) such that the IT folk can check a checkbox on their quarterly
security audit forms that indicates they have "security scanning
software" installed.  It additionally provides those same IT
bureaucracy folks with a CYA such that if they happen to be
hacked/exploited, they can CYA and shift blame to Crowdstrike and away
from themselves.

Any "security" Crowdstrike provides is secondary to this main purpose,
that of being an "insurance plan" onto which the IT bureaucracy members
can shift blame should some hack occur.

So in the end, because the next quarters audit's checkboxes will still
require "security scanning software" be installed, when next quarter
arrives, and those forms get filled out again, Crowdstrike will still
be installed, so those IT folks can check the "blame shifting checkbox"
on the audit form and magically become "secure" for another quarter.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
19 Jul 24 * Crowdstrike fiasco64Woozy Song
19 Jul 24 `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco63D
19 Jul 24  +* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco18The Natural Philosopher
19 Jul 24  i+* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco9Sirius
20 Jul 24  ii`* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco8Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Jul 24  ii `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco7Rob van der Putten
21 Jul 24  ii  +* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco2Steve Hayes
21 Jul 24  ii  i`- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1rbowman
21 Jul 24  ii  +- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Jul 24  ii  `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco3Mark Shroyer
23 Jul 24  ii   `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24  ii    `- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1Mark Shroyer
19 Jul 24  i+* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco3John McCue
21 Jul 24  ii`* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco2John Dallman
21 Jul 24  ii `- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1rbowman
19 Jul 24  i+- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1David W. Hodgins
19 Jul 24  i`* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco4D
19 Jul 24  i `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco3David W. Hodgins
20 Jul 24  i  +- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1D
30 Jul 24  i  `- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1candycanearter07
20 Jul 24  +* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco43rek2 hispagatos
20 Jul 24  i`* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco42The Natural Philosopher
20 Jul 24  i +* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco25Michael Uplawski
20 Jul 24  i i+* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco17The Natural Philosopher
20 Jul 24  i ii+- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1Michael Uplawski
21 Jul 24  i ii`* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco15Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Jul 24  i ii +- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1Michael Uplawski
21 Jul 24  i ii `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco13The Natural Philosopher
21 Jul 24  i ii  +- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1D
21 Jul 24  i ii  `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Jul 24  i ii   `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco10The Natural Philosopher
22 Jul 24  i ii    +* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco2Andy Burns
22 Jul 24  i ii    i`- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1Simon
23 Jul 24  i ii    `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24  i ii     `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco6Andy Burns
23 Jul 24  i ii      `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco5The Natural Philosopher
23 Jul 24  i ii       +* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco3D
23 Jul 24  i ii       i`* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco2Rich
23 Jul 24  i ii       i `- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1D
24 Jul 24  i ii       `- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1Steve Hayes
20 Jul 24  i i`* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco7rbowman
20 Jul 24  i i +* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco5The Natural Philosopher
20 Jul 24  i i i+* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco3Ant
21 Jul 24  i i ii+- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1rbowman
21 Jul 24  i i ii`- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1Andy Burns
21 Jul 24  i i i`- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1rbowman
21 Jul 24  i i `- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Jul 24  i +* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco4Rich
20 Jul 24  i i+- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1D
27 Jul 24  i i`* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco2186282@ud0s4.net
27 Jul 24  i i `- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1The Natural Philosopher
21 Jul 24  i +* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Jul 24  i i`* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco10The Natural Philosopher
21 Jul 24  i i `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Jul 24  i i  `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco8The Natural Philosopher
23 Jul 24  i i   `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24  i i    `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco6The Natural Philosopher
23 Jul 24  i i     `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24  i i      `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco4The Natural Philosopher
24 Jul 24  i i       `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Jul 24  i i        `* Re: Crowdstrike fiasco2The Natural Philosopher
25 Jul 24  i i         `- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24  i `- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1Marc Olschok
26 Jul 24  `- Re: Crowdstrike fiasco1186282@ud0s4.net

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