Re: I never thought of this scenario

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De : rich (at) *nospam* example.invalid (Rich)
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Date : 24. Apr 2024, 03:58:13
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D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 23 Apr 2024, Marc Haber wrote:
 
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 08:18:57 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
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You're reasoning is flawed.
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I’m what reasoning is flawed??
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Does not parse.
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Biting on someone else's typos is a sure sign of running out of
factual arguments.
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I am sure that, as a native speaker, you're able to understand what I
wanted to say while having my fingers type something different.
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Sorry Lawrence but I have to go with Marc on this one. Your position is
starting to look very weak here.

He's been lost from the beginning.  DHCP the protocol is not itself
routable, because it is not a network layer protocol.  DHCP messages
are carried in UDP packets, themselves carried in IP packets, and
whether a DHCP message is routable or not depends wholly on the
routability of the IP packet it resides within.  If that IP packet uses
a routable address, then the DHCP message is routable.  If it uses a
non-routable address (such as the network link broadcast address), the
then IP packet is not routable.

But routability depends only upon the address(s) used in the IP packet,
not whether the UDP datagram is carrying a DHCP message.

Lawrence has appeared to believe during this entire long thread that
the only use of DHCP is for initial IP setup (and it is possible this
is the only use he has ever seen and he may not know better, but if
true that indicates he has not understood the RFC he claims to have
read and relies on as his 'source').

But there is a whole other portion of DHCP that is used *after* the
initial IP address setup where the messages are fully routable because
the client now has an actual assigned IP address.  But for some reason
Lawrence seems unaware of, or unwilling to understand, that there is
that part of the DHCP protocol that is carried in routable UDP/IP
packets.


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7 Apr 24 * I never thought of this scenario159The Natural Philosopher
7 Apr 24 +- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Andy Burns
7 Apr 24 +* Re: I never thought of this scenario156The Natural Philosopher
8 Apr 24 i+* Re: I never thought of this scenario154Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Apr 24 ii+* Re: I never thought of this scenario77Grant Taylor
8 Apr 24 iii`* Re: I never thought of this scenario76Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Apr 24 iii `* Re: I never thought of this scenario75Grant Taylor
8 Apr 24 iii  `* Re: I never thought of this scenario74Lawrence D'Oliveiro
8 Apr 24 iii   `* Re: I never thought of this scenario73Grant Taylor
8 Apr 24 iii    `* Re: I never thought of this scenario72Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Apr 24 iii     `* Re: I never thought of this scenario71Grant Taylor
9 Apr 24 iii      `* Re: I never thought of this scenario70Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Apr 24 iii       +- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Marc Haber
9 Apr 24 iii       `* Re: I never thought of this scenario68Grant Taylor
9 Apr 24 iii        +* Re: I never thought of this scenario66Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Apr 24 iii        i+* Re: I never thought of this scenario3Marc Haber
10 Apr 24 iii        ii+- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Grant Taylor
10 Apr 24 iii        ii`- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Apr 24 iii        i`* Re: I never thought of this scenario62Grant Taylor
10 Apr 24 iii        i `* Re: I never thought of this scenario61Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Apr 24 iii        i  +* Re: I never thought of this scenario56Tauno Voipio
10 Apr 24 iii        i  i+- Re: I never thought of this scenario1D
13 Apr 24 iii        i  i`* Re: I never thought of this scenario54Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Apr 24 iii        i  i `* Re: I never thought of this scenario53Grant Taylor
13 Apr 24 iii        i  i  `* Re: I never thought of this scenario52Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Apr 24 iii        i  i   +* Re: I never thought of this scenario45Grant Taylor
15 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i`* Re: I never thought of this scenario44Lawrence D'Oliveiro
15 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i `* Re: I never thought of this scenario43Grant Taylor
19 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i  `* Re: I never thought of this scenario42Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i   `* Re: I never thought of this scenario41Marc Haber
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i    `* Re: I never thought of this scenario40Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     +* Re: I never thought of this scenario33Rich
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i`* Re: I never thought of this scenario32Richard Kettlewell
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i +* Re: I never thought of this scenario4Marc Haber
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i i`* Re: I never thought of this scenario3The Natural Philosopher
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i i `* Re: I never thought of this scenario2Marco Moock
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i i  `- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Grant Taylor
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i `* Re: I never thought of this scenario27Rich
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i  `* Re: I never thought of this scenario26Marco Moock
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i   `* Re: I never thought of this scenario25Rich
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    +* Re: I never thought of this scenario21Rich
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i`* Re: I never thought of this scenario20Grant Taylor
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i +* Re: I never thought of this scenario11Rich
21 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i`* Re: I never thought of this scenario10The Natural Philosopher
21 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i +* Re: I never thought of this scenario5Grant Taylor
22 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i i`* Re: I never thought of this scenario4The Natural Philosopher
22 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i i +- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Marc Haber
23 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i i `* Re: I never thought of this scenario2Grant Taylor
23 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i i  `- Re: I never thought of this scenario1The Natural Philosopher
22 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i `* Re: I never thought of this scenario4Marc Haber
22 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i  +- Re: I never thought of this scenario1The Natural Philosopher
22 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i  `* Re: DHCP argument ....2Jim Jackson
23 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i   `- Re: DHCP argument ....1D
21 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i +* Re: I never thought of this scenario7The Natural Philosopher
21 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i+- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Grant Taylor
23 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i`* Re: I never thought of this scenario5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i `* Re: I never thought of this scenario4Marc Haber
24 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i  +- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Rich
26 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i  `* Re: I never thought of this scenario2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i i   `- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Marc Haber
23 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    i `- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i    `* Re: I never thought of this scenario3Grant Taylor
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i     `* Re: I never thought of this scenario2Marco Moock
21 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     i      `- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Grant Taylor
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i     `* Re: I never thought of this scenario6Marc Haber
23 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i      `* Re: I never thought of this scenario5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i       `* Re: I never thought of this scenario4Marc Haber
26 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i        `* Re: I never thought of this scenario3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Apr 24 iii        i  i   i         `* Re: I never thought of this scenario2Richard Kettlewell
8 May 24 iii        i  i   i          `- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Apr 24 iii        i  i   `* Re: I never thought of this scenario6Marc Haber
15 Apr 24 iii        i  i    `* Re: I never thought of this scenario5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
15 Apr 24 iii        i  i     `* Re: I never thought of this scenario4Rich
15 Apr 24 iii        i  i      +- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Grant Taylor
17 Apr 24 iii        i  i      `* Re: I never thought of this scenario2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Apr 24 iii        i  i       `- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Marco Moock
10 Apr 24 iii        i  +- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Marc Haber
10 Apr 24 iii        i  `* Re: I never thought of this scenario3Grant Taylor
11 Apr 24 iii        i   +- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Marc Haber
13 Apr 24 iii        i   `- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Apr 24 iii        `- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Marc Haber
8 Apr 24 ii+* Re: I never thought of this scenario63The Natural Philosopher
8 Apr 24 iii`* Re: I never thought of this scenario62The Natural Philosopher
9 Apr 24 iii +* Re: I never thought of this scenario4Grant Taylor
9 Apr 24 iii i`* Re: I never thought of this scenario3Carlos E.R.
9 Apr 24 iii i `* Re: I never thought of this scenario2The Natural Philosopher
13 Apr 24 iii i  `- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Apr 24 iii `* Re: I never thought of this scenario57Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Apr 24 iii  +* Re: I never thought of this scenario2Grant Taylor
13 Apr 24 iii  i`- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Apr 24 iii  `* Re: I never thought of this scenario54The Natural Philosopher
13 Apr 24 iii   `* Re: I never thought of this scenario53Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Apr 24 iii    +* Re: I never thought of this scenario46Grant Taylor
15 Apr 24 iii    i`* Re: I never thought of this scenario45Lawrence D'Oliveiro
15 Apr 24 iii    i +* Re: I never thought of this scenario40Grant Taylor
19 Apr 24 iii    i i`* Re: I never thought of this scenario39Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Apr 24 iii    i i +* Re: I never thought of this scenario15Marc Haber
19 Apr 24 iii    i i i+* Re: I never thought of this scenario2Grant Taylor
19 Apr 24 iii    i i ii`- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Rich
20 Apr 24 iii    i i i`* Re: I never thought of this scenario12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Apr 24 iii    i i i +* Re: I never thought of this scenario7Rich
20 Apr 24 iii    i i i `* Re: I never thought of this scenario4Marc Haber
19 Apr 24 iii    i i `* Re: I never thought of this scenario23The Natural Philosopher
15 Apr 24 iii    i `* Re: I never thought of this scenario4Marc Haber
13 Apr 24 iii    `* Re: I never thought of this scenario6The Natural Philosopher
8 Apr 24 ii+* Re: I never thought of this scenario3Carlos E.R.
8 Apr 24 ii`* Re: I never thought of this scenario10Andy Burns
8 Apr 24 i`- Re: I never thought of this scenario1The Natural Philosopher
7 Apr 24 `- Re: I never thought of this scenario1Marco Moock

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