Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy

On Mon, 4 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 04/11/2024 18:22, rbowman wrote:

On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 10:15:31 +0100, D wrote:
 

Good question. These are some of the standard answers:
 "In terms of society, I think there will always be a demand for things
as long as humans have desires. Having AI replacing all production I
think we'll see the following activities for humans:
 * Sports * Pleasure/Hospitality/Leisure industry * Culture (human
created culture, plays, concerts will get premium value
    much like we can today buy factory produced items at a fraction of
    the price of handmade items.)
* Science (we'll do science with the help of AI, if they do not reach
    god-like status.)
* Teaching/education (having a human teacher will become a value-add
    even though everything would be available online and through AI:s)
* Raising children/family time * Philosophy * Space exploration (Yes, we
can send robots, but given a society rich
    enough I think the human will to explore and to "be there" will come
    into play.
* Religion/psychology/therapy
 So no matter how powerful AI becomes I think the above are examples of
areas where humans will still play a role and add value just by being
humans.".

 The problem is with the exception of sports and portions of the leisure
industry to put it bluntly many humans are not capable of those
activities.
 

Frankly I've come across plenty of people who are happy to live off social security, smoke dope, take pills and play 'GTA' and 'Call of Duty'

This is true. I think the reason is that the system has evolved to promote this. But this state of affairs will not work in the future we are exploring here, and if changes are not done, it will end badly.
Inherently, I think most people are able to live meaningful lives if they are only taught how and the tools to do it. Socialism, on the other hand, thrives on making people passive and dependent. Socialism doesn't even need automation and robots to collapse, it collapses just fine with regular humans. =)